BRFR Cake Stop 'breaking news' miscellany

[briantrumpet]

Experts disagreeing is pretty standard. The oddity with this case was only one side put anyone up.

Indeed. Still deeply weird why they made that choice.

 

[Ian H]

Experts disagreeing is pretty standard. The oddity with this case was only one side put anyone up.

So how does one decide which expert is right*? There have been several cases where medical evidence has subsequently been overturned. The cot death case from a few years back springs to mind.

*which expert is really an expert?

 

[briantrumpet]

I guess I'd better shelve any plans to travel to the US, even if I wanted to, given my social media commentary on Trump. (FTR, actually, I've never wanted to go there anyway.) The scientist is actually probably lucky to have been turned back, and not found himself incarcerated.

I think Germany might already be giving travel advisories on travelling to the US, and at won't be long before several others join them. Tourism has already taken quite a hit year-on-year, and this sort of thing will only accelerate the trend.

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And there we go. Not surprising, but quite extraordinary.

 

[C R]

And there we go. Not surprising, but quite extraordinary.

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Most of the places affected by the drop in tourism are not MAGA country, so probably the MAGAts are actually pleased.

 

[First Aspect]

For context, the "warning" is a slight re wording of the existing advice.

 

[C R]

For context, the "warning" is a slight re wording of the existing advice.

Indeed, it mostly says that the US enforce the rules strictly, so better follow them strictly. Having said that it also appears based on the case of the French scientist, that the US immigration officers make up rules on the fly, which they then enforce strictly.

 

[briantrumpet]

For context, the "warning" is a slight re wording of the existing advice.

OK, thanks. But the properly hostile examples of late are not going to go unnoticed by individuals, organisations, or governments.

 

[First Aspect]

Indeed, it mostly says that the US enforce the rules strictly, so better follow them strictly. Having said that it also appears based on the case of the French scientist, that the US immigration officers make up rules on the fly, which they then enforce strictly.

Indeed. Being a total daffodil is a pre requisite for the job.

 

[First Aspect]

OK, thanks. But the properly hostile examples of late are not going to go unnoticed by individuals, organisations, or governments.

Sure, but the travel warning doesn't relate to that. It becomes news if the UK government warns against arbitrary enforcement of local laws, or some such. Tbh I wouldn't rule that out, but we aren't there yet.

 

[orraloon]

14 years since last visit to the USania, do not see me going near there in these v strange, orange shitgibbon and the cyberwanker dominated times. Remember one visit with family being 'interrogated' by the knob in the border check cubicle for no apparent reason: we're here on holiday, accomodation all booked, vehicle hire booked, return flight booked... what's your problem pal?

 

[briantrumpet]

[One or two BR posters still getting a tut-tutting in the moderated part. Old freewheeling unmoderated habits die hard.]

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

Indeed. Still deeply weird why they made that choice.

This doesn't, strictly speaking, answer the question but it does give an interesting perspective on some possibilities and the wider ramifications for Letby of her defence not providing expert witnesses.

https://davidallengreen.com/2024/07...r-own-expert-evidence-for-good-reason-or-bad/

 

[Pblakeney]

OK, thanks. But the properly hostile examples of late are not going to go unnoticed by individuals, organisations, or governments.

On a personal level we were planning a trip to USA & Canada next year. Looking more and more likely to be a Canada only trip.
Sure, Trump won't notice or care but multiplied through everyone in Europe?

 

[briantrumpet]

This doesn't, strictly speaking, answer the question but it does give an interesting perspective on some possibilities and the wider ramifications for Letby of her defence not providing expert witnesses.

https://davidallengreen.com/2024/07...r-own-expert-evidence-for-good-reason-or-bad/

Thanks. DAG is always informative.

 

[Pinno718]

Okay BT, I want a word.

Some history:

Trumpet, B used to get a bit animated when I posted stuff (or stuff was posted) at a tangent to the original thread. So he set about creating threads for whatever stuff was being talked about because it was in the wrong place. A strange sort of compartmental compulsion obsessive disorder.
...and this thread is all over the place BT. It's like Debussy on a bad day.