BRFR Cake Stop 'breaking news' miscellany

[AndyRM]

Horrible news from Liverpool.
Let’s hope no one is badly hurt or worse.

The footage doesn't look great.

 

[Beebo]

Interesting that the police were very quick to say the arrested man was White British.

 

[BoldonLad]

Interesting that the police were very quick to say the arrested man was White British.

Yes, that occurred to me. Defusing potential unwarranted speculation, perhaps?

 

[briantrumpet]

Yes, that occurred to me. Defusing potential unwarranted speculation, perhaps?

Wouldn't have taken Musk long.

 

[BoldonLad]

Wouldn't have taken Musk long.

True, but, I doubt anything as mundane as "facts" will deter him 🙂

 

[AndyRM]

After the fallout from Stockport, you can hardly blame them

 

[briantrumpet]

Is that a lot of money? It sounds like a lot of money.

 

[Pblakeney]

Is that a lot of money? It sounds like a lot of money.

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To think that someone on BR tried to convince us that the U.S. was the land of milk & honey.

 

[briantrumpet]

To think that someone on BR tried to convince us that the U.S. was the land of milk & honey.

Yebbut as his business was recruitment starting at £100k pa, it's not surprising he thought that the US was heaven (unless you're poor, black, brown, female, disabled, old, ill, etc.)

 

[First Aspect]

Median earnings in the US are about 25% higher than the UK, almost all of which is taken up with all of the the things that we tried to explain to him, such as education, health, cost of living blah.

Average earnings are now more than 50% higher. That's inequality. And bear in mind the UK has higher inequality than much of western Europe....

 

[Pross]

Interesting that the police were very quick to say the arrested man was White British.

So quick that even our local redneck didn't have time to put the blame on an Iranian immigrant

 

[Pross]

So the junior doctors are looking for more money again. I'm struggling to understand their point, as I read it they want above inflation wages to bring them back to the level they were at in 2008. The strange thing with this is that those who were junior doctors back then accepted the rises put to them, it therefore seems a bit odd for the next generation to effectively be saying they shouldn't have settled for those pay rises. Also, those who are junior doctors now wouldn't have even started on their training back in 2008 and most probably hasdn't even done their GCSE options at that time so they willingly embarked on a career as a doctor knowing the rate of pay and the hours / conditions but are now wanting that to be increased to the level of a previous generation. How far back is it reasonable to go when comparing historic salaries? I also wonder how popular they'll be with other medical staff that are being offered a lower pay rise, especially if they decide to strike again and put them under greater pressure.

 

[First Aspect]

There's an argument about competition in salaries with other countries, but I do agree that pointing to historical salaries nearly a generation ago is unhelpful and shouldn't get a lot of traction. Particularly given they've had back to back above inflation rises.

Really, they just need to pass their exams and avail themselves of a stonkingly good pension and do some private work on the side even though they are being paid full time by the NHS. A lot of them will be top 1 or 2 % earners even without those pensions making the equivalent much much higher, and the salary curve in a lot of other professions is a comparable short term pain for long term gain.

 

[Stevo 666]

So the junior doctors are looking for more money again. I'm struggling to understand their point, as I read it they want above inflation wages to bring them back to the level they were at in 2008. The strange thing with this is that those who were junior doctors back then accepted the rises put to them, it therefore seems a bit odd for the next generation to effectively be saying they shouldn't have settled for those pay rises. Also, those who are junior doctors now wouldn't have even started on their training back in 2008 and most probably hasdn't even done their GCSE options at that time so they willingly embarked on a career as a doctor knowing the rate of pay and the hours / conditions but are now wanting that to be increased to the level of a previous generation. How far back is it reasonable to go when comparing historic salaries? I also wonder how popular they'll be with other medical staff that are being offered a lower pay rise, especially if they decide to strike again and put them under greater pressure.

It is predictable if a bit hard to see the logic. I suspect that they sense weakness in how quickly Labour agreed to their last pay hike and also the lack of any strings attached to that rise, so probably think they can have another go.

 

[Stevo 666]

There's an argument about competition in salaries with other countries, but I do agree that pointing to historical salaries nearly a generation ago is unhelpful and shouldn't get a lot of traction. Particularly given they've had back to back above inflation rises.

Really, they just need to pass their exams and avail themselves of a stonkingly good pension and do some private work on the side even though they are being paid full time by the NHS. A lot of them will be top 1 or 2 % earners even without those pensions making the equivalent much much higher, and the salary curve in a lot of other professions is a comparable short term pain for long term gain.

I have several medic friends from my uni days and none of them are badly off, far from it. The common plan for most of them is how soon they can retire and maintain their lifestyle (these are people who are not yet into their 60's). The only thing that seems to be stopping them is either previous divorces and/or general financial incontinence.