BRFR Cake Stop 'breaking news' miscellany

[C R]

It's clearly better to have a deal with India than not. It includes aerospace, which is a bonus given they've just started a war. But if the metric is a comparison to what would have been, it is likely to be a temporary lead.

The reason the single market is relevant, is because if you do a deal with the EU, it covers 27 countries, instead of 27 negotiations.

Amazeballs.

Also, you can't negotiate separately vis. tariffs, regulatory standards etc.

Drat.

Facts, we know them and we don't like them. They are the reason we can't have unicorns.

 

[First Aspect]

Populism is strapping a carrot to a donkeys head and calling it a unicorn.

 

[Pross]

What do you think of Starmer's new trade deal with India, Brian?

You sound like Kemi. Remind me what the trade deal was the last Government negotiated with India. Presumably it was far superior?

 

[Dorset Boy]

You sound like Kemi. Remind me what the trade deal was the last Government negotiated with India. Presumably it was far superior?

Given they have been negotiating for the last 3 years, then the previous Government had as much, or more, to do with getting this deal as the current Government.....

 

[Pross]

Given they have been negotiating for the last 3 years, then the previous Government had as much, or more, to do with getting this deal as the current Government.....

But Kemi said she wasn't impressed with it.

 

[icowden]

But Kemi said she wasn't impressed with it.

Well of course. She is operating in the "toddler as leader" mode:

Look darling - here's your lovely cake. Daddy has added some chocolate swirls for you and written your name on it..
I DON WANNIT ANYMORE. YOU ROONED MY CAKE. I DIDNT WANT SWIRLS. ITS HORRIBLE. I HATE HATE HATE HATE IT...

 

[PurplePenguin]

The fundamental mistake of Brexiteers was thinking that we can do better deals than a much larger trade bloc with more to offer. All we can do is get there a bit quicker.

I think, unless I am mistaken, all the UK trade deals have improved or matched the EU ones with the exception of the Canadian one. It's reasonable to assume that the UK would be able to get a better deal for the UK in less time; however, the key point of dispute is whether this compensates for the increased friction in trade with the EU. And on that point, I think most people would conclude it doesn't.

 

[briantrumpet]

I think, unless I am mistaken, all the UK trade deals have improved or matched the EU ones with the exception of the Canadian one. It's reasonable to assume that the UK would be able to get a better deal for the UK in less time; however, the key point of dispute is whether this compensates for the increased friction in trade with the EU. And on that point, I think most people would conclude it doesn't.

The Oz one certainly isn't: that was just a giveaway for (effectively) nothing in return (certainly for agriculture), and reflected the desperation to sign anything post-Brexit that called itself a trade deal. And peanuts, in relative terms in any case.

 

[Rusty Nails]

The Oz one certainly isn't: that was just a giveaway for (effectively) nothing in return (certainly for agriculture), and reflected the desperation to sign anything post-Brexit that called itself a trade deal. And peanuts, in relative terms in any case.

But will these deals open up the pork markets?

 

[PurplePenguin]

The Oz one certainly isn't: that was just a giveaway for (effectively) nothing in return (certainly for agriculture), and reflected the desperation to sign anything post-Brexit that called itself a trade deal. And peanuts, in relative terms in any case.

EU is still negotiating its trade deal with Australia, so it's hard to say that the UK's agreement is worse than something that doesn't exist.

 

[CXRAndy]

Populism is strapping a carrot to a donkeys head and calling it a unicorn.

Woke is to believe a man can become a woman 😁

 

[First Aspect]

Woke is to believe a man can become a woman 😁

I have been thinking that the big positive of the supreme court decision is that it's now okay to quote Life of Brian more freely.

 

[briantrumpet]

EU is still negotiating its trade deal with Australia, so it's hard to say that the UK's agreement is worse than something that doesn't exist.

Well, even George Eustace rubbished it...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63627801

And the Australians laughed at it.



Maybe the EU negotiators will come up with something less laughable.

 

[Stevo 666]

It's clearly better to have a deal with India than not. It includes aerospace, which is a bonus given they've just started a war. But if the metric is a comparison to what would have been, it is likely to be a temporary lead.

The reason the single market is relevant, is because if you do a deal with the EU, it covers 27 countries, instead of 27 negotiations.

Amazeballs.

Also, you can't negotiate separately vis. tariffs, regulatory standards etc.

Drat.

Re your first sentence, it's worth noting that the EU doesn't have a trade deal with India. So reasonable to assume that if we were still in the EU, we wouldn't have one either.

 

[Stevo 666]

I have been thinking that the big positive of the supreme court decision is that it's now okay to quote Life of Brian more freely.

And some old Little Britain sketches.