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Pblakeney

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I think the BBC have to improve their descriptive explanations since a 6 foot wave in Hawaii seems small if anything.

Wave recorded at 6ft heading to Hawaii, says governorpublished at 06:56​

A wave has passed through the Midway Atoll island between Japan and Hawaii at 6ft (1.8m), Hawaii governor Josh Green says.
He says this was from the trough to peak of the wave.
"We're still expecting a significant wave," he adds, and they will only give the all clear when they feel there is "total safety".
 
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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

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I think the BBC have to improve their descriptive explanations since a 6 foot wave in Hawaii seems small if anything.

Wave recorded at 6ft heading to Hawaii, says governorpublished at 06:56​

A wave has passed through the Midway Atoll island between Japan and Hawaii at 6ft (1.8m), Hawaii governor Josh Green says.
He says this was from the trough to peak of the wave.
"We're still expecting a significant wave," he adds, and they will only give the all clear when they feel there is "total safety".

Maybe a bit of explanation about how tsunamis work might have been sensible, given that a 6ft tsunami out in the deep ocean is still significant.
 
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First Aspect

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Once again, bzzzt. There is no 'right to roam'. There is a right of responsible access which does not include motorised vehicles.
Yes yes it's a colloquialism. Boring.

And yet under this legislation councils feel unable, under the legislation, to prevent people from parking on a road and living in a yurt 10 yards away, or indeed parking a camper anywhere and living in it.

It is, "pish" legislation or you wouldn't have the issues all across Scotland that you are now seeing.
 

First Aspect

Über Member
Fair enough, and good news. All we need is for the police to enforce it. Anyone? Anyone?
One of the biggest problems in this "lawless" country is simply a lack of enforcement.
The enforcement options relate to blocking roads, which as offence anywhere. Bit of you have 100 cars parked in a row on a narrow road, which one is blocking it? For context, if a car is speeding and then abandoned and they can't tell which of two people were driving, neither of them are charged. So good luck with all but Austin Powers type parking offenses.

I looked into the car camping and van living issue myself, and the two councils I asked said the same thing. The guidance says one thing. But the law itself does not explicitly prohibit living in a layby or next to one. So you fine or arrest someone, and risk that being the offence.

Secondary legislation is desperately needed, to refine issues such as "wild camping" to preclude anything within a certain distance from a public road or dwelling, to preclude anything for more than one night (thereby preventing people erecting semi permanent yurts with log burners etc). Camper vans and caravans need to be limited to designated sites.

None of this stops anyone going for a hike with a tent, or putting one in a boat and self propelling themselves somewhere, which was the original intention.

If you take away the high density of people exploiting the law for convenience, you also do away with problems of public defecation, because there's less of it and it's not all in one place.
 
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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

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I think the BBC have to improve their descriptive explanations since a 6 foot wave in Hawaii seems small if anything.

Wave recorded at 6ft heading to Hawaii, says governorpublished at 06:56​

A wave has passed through the Midway Atoll island between Japan and Hawaii at 6ft (1.8m), Hawaii governor Josh Green says.
He says this was from the trough to peak of the wave.
"We're still expecting a significant wave," he adds, and they will only give the all clear when they feel there is "total safety".

Only 6ft.

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Pblakeney

Senior Member

Surfers say “meh”.
This is all old news. Downgraded, panic over. A sceptic might think MSN is desperate for a story that is not about Trump.

“Surfer seen on California waters despite fears
While fears of significant waves may have died down, there are still some concerns stretching to the western coast of the US.
California is still under an advisory - as are the state of Washington, Oregon and the Canadian province of British Columbia - meaning there is the potential for strong currents and dangerous waves.”
 

CXRAndy

Legendary Member
Hawaii is situated deep in the Pacific created by volcano. The shoreline is invariably steep, 6ft tidal wave will have limited impact. The real danger is a shore line that has a shallow graduated seabed leading upto the beaches. This is where the 6ft tidal wave will climb in height considerably, creating vasts amount of damage
 
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