BRFR Cake Stop 'breaking news' miscellany

[C R]

(Type 2 is where the pancreas is worn out due to poor lifestyle choices for a reason we don't really understand yet).

FTFY

I am type 1, and have worked in diabetes research.

 

[BoldonLad]

Thanks. Copilot also says that good ventilation is still effective in reducing spread (I asked about omicron specifically, but no idea how specific the below is).

Are other Countries (particularly those with similar climate conditions) having any better success than we are at suppressing the spread? If yes, maybe we could learn from them?

 

[briantrumpet]

Are other Countries (particularly those with similar climate conditions) having any better success than we are at suppressing the spread? If yes, maybe we could learn from them?

It looks like most of the world has given up on collecting (or at least, sharing) data. It's one way to make the virus go away, I suppose. (Source: Our World In Data)

 

[First Aspect]

The virus was never going to go away, and broadly it is now about on the level of a bad cold in terms of severity. Or perhaps somewhere between cold and flu. There's not a lot of sense at this stage in treating it differently from a policy perspective to a cold.

 

[briantrumpet]

The virus was never going to go away, and broadly it is now about on the level of a bad cold in terms of severity. Or perhaps somewhere between cold and flu. There's not a lot of sense at this stage in treating it differently from a policy perspective to a cold.

I think I probably agree with the not-blanket vaccination policy, but given it can still be deeply unpleasant and long-covid still being a thing (apparently they have managed to pick up a genetic parker or something which could help explain the brain fog), I'd still prefer that simple mitigation measures, which would also cut down transmission of other bugs, were practised routinely as much as is possible.

 

[Psamathe]

The virus was never going to go away, and broadly it is now about on the level of a bad cold in terms of severity. Or perhaps somewhere between cold and flu. There's not a lot of sense at this stage in treating it differently from a policy perspective to a cold.

According to WHO an estimated 6% of people catching Covid develop long Covid (https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/post-covid-19-condition-(long-covid)); other sources give different rates some down at 1.8%. Additionally they don't specify whether "catching Covid" includes asymptomatic cases.

But whatever the details of the stats a lot of people catching something "about on the level of a bad cold in terms of severity" is also going to mean a fair number moving on to Long Covid which doesn't happen with the common cold.

In UK we are concerned about the high numbers of population off-sick not working after the pandemic so allowing lots of long-Covid might not be such a good idea?

 

[BoldonLad]

It looks like most of the world has given up on collecting (or at least, sharing) data. It's one way to make the virus go away, I suppose. (Source: Our World In Data)

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There doesn't appear to be a "key"?, If I am understanding what this graph is showing, ie number of Covid cases, then, immediate thoughts are:

- would cases per 1,000 (or some other factor) be a better measure

- if Canada, Italy, South Africa, South Korea are reporting accurately, should we be asking what they are doing?

 

[briantrumpet]

There doesn't appear to be a "key"?, If I am understanding what this graph is showing, ie number of Covid cases, then, immediate thoughts are:

- would cases per 1,000 (or some other factor) be a better measure

- if Canada, Italy, South Africa, South Korea are reporting accurately, should we be asking what they are doing?

Given that only three countries are supplying data now, it seems fairly pointless refining it any more. At the best of times, during the pandemic, it was only a rough guide, given the different data collection criteria.

 

[icowden]

FTFY
I am type 1, and have worked in diabetes research.

Point taken m'lud although I would posit that having administered Type 2 DESMOND courses, there would seem to be some correlation between diet/lifestyle and Type 2.

Sidenote: Do you have the latest tech yet? My daughter is very much liking the Omnipod 5 / Dexcom G7 combo).

 

[C R]

Point taken m'lud although I would posit that having administered Type 2 DESMOND courses, there would seem to be some correlation between diet/lifestyle and Type 2.

Sidenote: Do you have the latest tech yet? My daughter is very much liking the Omnipod 5 / Dexcom G7 combo).

Re diet and lifestyle seems to trigger some underlying propensity, the same way that something we don't understand yet triggers the type 1 autoimmune response. TL;DR, some people have a natural propensity to become T2, and among those people poor diet and exercise seems to trigger the response, but not always, and good diet and exercise doesn't stop it from happening either.

I've been using a libre for about five years now, but still on MDI. My control is good, so haven't really felt compelled to try a pump.

 

[First Aspect]

According to WHO an estimated 6% of people catching Covid develop long Covid (https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/post-covid-19-condition-(long-covid)); other sources give different rates some down at 1.8%. Additionally they don't specify whether "catching Covid" includes asymptomatic cases.

But whatever the details of the stats a lot of people catching something "about on the level of a bad cold in terms of severity" is also going to mean a fair number moving on to Long Covid which doesn't happen with the common cold.

In UK we are concerned about the high numbers of population off-sick not working after the pandemic so allowing lots of long-Covid might not be such a good idea?

You need to look at what definition is being used for long COVID. As I understood it, that can mean anything from long term debilitative inflammatory conditions, loss of smell etc., to people who take a few weeks longer than most to go back to normal. I am afraid I do not believe that one out of 16 people who get COVID now are somehow struck down for life.

 

[Pross]

I really hope these three spend every day of their sentences under constant fear of the other prisoners getting their hands on them. The tariffs feel pretty light to me, it’s not often I’ve seen the SIO for a case cry after being interviewed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c708yr41zqzo

 

[icowden]

I really hope these three spend every day of their sentences under constant fear of the other prisoners getting their hands on them. The tariffs feel pretty light to me, it’s not often I’ve seen the SIO for a case cry after being interviewed.

I don't think the sentence can be much tougher. The grandparents have been given whole life sentences of which they must serve a minimum term of 23 years and 17 years respectively. So Michael Ives will be 71 when he becomes eligible for release on license (if he survives that long) and Kerry Ives will be 63.

The mother gets to serve 8 years before being eligible for release on license, for standing by and failing to protect her son.

 

[Pross]

I don't think the sentence can be much tougher. The grandparents have been given whole life sentences of which they must serve a minimum term of 23 years and 17 years respectively. So Michael Ives will be 71 when he becomes eligible for release on license (if he survives that long) and Kerry Ives will be 63.

The mother gets to serve 8 years before being eligible for release on license, for standing by and failing to protect her son.

Higher tariffs are often given, they tick a lot of aggravating factors on this list. If they’d killed him with a gun the starting point would be 30 years, to me the ongoing torment and abuse makes it worse but I appreciate that’s just how the law is written.

https://sentencingcouncil.org.uk/media/zkjjplgn/final-murder-sentencing-leaflet-for-web1.pdf

I still won’t shed any tears if they get regular kickings whilst behind bars.

 

[icowden]

Higher tariffs are often given, they tick a lot of aggravating factors on this list. If they’d killed him with a gun the starting point would be 30 years, to me the ongoing torment and abuse makes it worse but I appreciate that’s just how the law is written.

Yes. The starting point for single murder is 15 years. The grandfather got 23 - that's 8 years for all the aggravating factors and actually committing the murder. The grandmother got two years for aiding and abetting

I still won’t shed any tears if they get regular kickings whilst behind bars.

I can't imagine that either of them are going to be popular in their respective places of incarceration.