cookiemonster
Guru
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Yes. The media are now saying that this could top 300 dead.
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briantrumpet
Squire
Given the number of apartments involved, even that horrific number would be at the lower end of what you might have thought.
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briantrumpet
Squire
Good news for the xenophobes, bad news for the economy. Who's going to fund my triple-lock pension, when I get to it, and staff the NHS, which I'm using to the full already?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2emzjre62o
The figure appears to affected by the larger than expected number of British citizens leaving rather than a reduction in immigration per sé. I wonder if it's all those horrible rich people not wanting to pay their share of the taxes? Good riddance says the collective voice of NCAP.
Careful what you wish for says I.
BoldonLad
Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
- Location
- South Tyneside
Slowing, or even reversing, the growth in population should reduce consumption, and emissions. Maybe we could get some of the younger "economically inactive" into work?
matticus
Legendary Member
If it's the rent-a-gobs who (rather loudly) fecked-off to Dubai, then I hope they stay there.
Psamathe
Guru
Sort of makes one reflect on UK authorities response to Greenfell Tower tragedy.
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briantrumpet
Squire
As alluded to by @Ian H earlier: it turned into a game of pass-the-parcel, with the parcel ending up in a bin somewhere.
CXRAndy
Shaman
Thats because thousands of British are leaving this shithole of a country called UK.
Stevo 666
Veteran
Try making the UK a more attractive place for net contributors, entrepreneurs, people with skills that we need etc. RFA had her chance yesterday but blew it, as we always knew she would.
midlandsgrimpeur
Active Member
I would agree, but we probably need to start by ending all the political and media rhetoric around not wanting immigrants in that case, as I am certain that is not attracting them, regardless of whether the economic conditions are attractive.
icowden
Shaman
No, this is what we term "speculative bollox".
The ONS is quite clear on the drivers:
Looking in more detail, non-EU+ immigration has dropped by more than 350,000 since a year earlier. There was a 49% (or 108,000) decrease in immigration for work (main applicants). Meanwhile, the number of work dependants fell by 81,000 (35%). The fall in immigration for study (main applicants) was smaller at 17% for the same period. However, student dependants dropped by 86% from 121,000 to 17,000.
There has also been an increase in emigration over the 12 months to December 2024, particularly people leaving who originally came on study visas once pandemic travel restrictions to the UK were eased. In fact, the departure of non-EU+ nationals who initially arrived for study has followed an upward trend since YE March 2022. Emigration is now around levels seen in the mid-2010s.
Stevo 666
Veteran
To put in a nutshellwhat I was saying above, we want the right sort of immigrants. And in sensible numbers.
icowden
Shaman
People who say that usually mean "the white ones that don't speak funny".
First Aspect
Veteran
Net migration of 200k per year - the most recent guestimate - isn't wildly different from the 2015 era Tory pledge. Does that mean we can all stop worrying because Labour have fulfilled David Cameron's manifesto pledge?
