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Ian H

Shaman
Her views were based on her religious beliefs, as was her choice not to get on either bus I suppose. I thought Richard Coles wrote a nice response to her death, in effect saying that his vehement disagreement with her on many issues was offset by her being 'inconveniently congenial'.

Hitler was apparently charming in person.
 

Pblakeney

Shaman
Hitler was apparently charming in person.

I've heard the same about Donnie. Not that I'd want to link the two, oh no.
 

AuroraSaab

Pharaoh
Hitler was apparently charming in person.

She wasn't exactly Hitler though was she.
Her conservative religious views on gay marriage for example are shared by many in the UK Muslim community. Funny how gay men like Richard Coles and Russell Grant who got to know her quite well can find it in themselves to acknowledge that they could very strongly 'agree to disagree' with someone and still like them on a personal basis. All without comparing her to someone who sent millions to the gas chambers.
 

First Aspect

Legendary Member
What I would say is that there are lots of people with those views on homosexuality, but who tend to keep them to within their like minded community.

Expanding the adoption of those views goes hand in hand with efforts to expand the congregation, as it were, rather than to separate off one bit of it and try to impose it on everyone else.

I think that's an important distinction.
 

Pblakeney

Shaman
What I would say is that there are lots of people with those views on homosexuality, but who tend to keep them to within their like minded community.

Expanding the adoption of those views goes hand in hand with efforts to expand the congregation, as it were, rather than to separate off one bit of it and try to impose it on everyone else.

I think that's an important distinction.

If any person is going to tell another person how to live their lives then they can expect some push back.
Religion is not an excuse. Any religion.
 

icowden

Pharaoh
Her conservative religious views on gay marriage for example are shared by many in the UK Muslim community. Funny how gay men like Richard Coles and Russell Grant who got to know her quite well can find it in themselves to acknowledge that they could very strongly 'agree to disagree' with someone and still like them on a personal basis. All without comparing her to someone who sent millions to the gas chambers.
This is a fair point. She still wanted pregnant women giving birth to be handcuffed to hospital beds though. Not much of a humanitarian. I don't recall the bit in the bible where it decrees that women should be tied to beds.

To be fair, she may well have gone for the stoning to death regardless of the pregnancy.
 

secretsqirrel

spiteful class warrior
This is a fair point. She still wanted pregnant women giving birth to be handcuffed to hospital beds though. Not much of a humanitarian. I don't recall the bit in the bible where it decrees that women should be tied to beds.

To be fair, she may well have gone for the stoning to death regardless of the pregnancy.

All I can say is she was very victorian and out of touch like my old nanna that was born in the 19th century.

Forthright, intolerant and quaint.

I wish she had been teamed up with Miriam Margolyes for a fishing or travel programme. That would have been fun.
 

BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
Location
South Tyneside
Black cats and dogs are also more difficult to photograph, so when they appear on rescue websites they don’t look as interesting as a ginger cat or golden retriever etc.

That’s my theory anyway after trying to take a nice portrait of my black dog.

The TV news item I saw on the subject actually mentioned this. Apparently some would be adopters, did not want blank or black and white cats because they did not produce such "cute" photographs on the adopters social media feed. An excellent reason for rejecting that person as an adopter, I would have thought?
 

icowden

Pharaoh
All I can say is she was very victorian and out of touch like my old nanna that was born in the 19th century.
She was born in 1947, not 1847.

My nan was born in 1919 and she didn't hold with chaining pregnant women to beds nor banning gay marriage. She rather felt that one should live and let live and that everyone should be entitled to love who they chose. - Side note - Her mum was catholic and her dad protestant. She was raised by her aunties because the family broke her parents up.

Widdecombe wasn't quaintly Victorian and out of touch, she was hugely bigoted and quite unpleasant in her views, using religion as a shield for hatred and prejudice.

Whilst her death seems to have been a murder, and that's deplorable whichever way you look at it, she wasn't a slightly eccentric but lovable character. No-one should be celebrating her murder, but equally let's not pretend she was a fun, saintly celeb politician.
 
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secretsqirrel

spiteful class warrior
She was born in 1947, not 1847.

My nan was born in 1919 and she didn't hold with chaining pregnant women to beds nor banning gay marriage. She rather felt that one should live and let live and that everyone should be entitled to love who they chose. - Side note - Her mum was catholic and her dad protestant. She was raised by her aunties because the family broke her parents up.

Widdecombe wasn't quaintly Victorian and out of touch, she was hugely bigoted and quite unpleasant in her views, using religion as a shield for hatred and prejudice.

Whilst her death seems to have been a murder, and that's deplorable whichever way you look at it, she wasn't a slightly eccentric but lovable character. No-one should be celebrating her murder, but equally let's not pretend she was a fun, saintly celeb politician.

My old nanna wasn’t very pleasant either. And not in anyway like Miriam Margolyes.
 
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