BRFR Cake Stop 'breaking news' miscellany

[Pblakeney]

But isn't that like US people saying you need a gun because everyone else has them? It's madness, as escalation is inevitable. As well as dead children, albeit someone else's.

Just buy a Skania and be done with it.

 

[Pblakeney]

Ooh, ooh, there's a word for people like that isn't there? Starts with C?

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We on here all know that daffodil starts with a C.

 

[icowden]

Ooh, ooh, there's a word for people like that isn't there? Starts with C?

Clever?

This is a terrible article based on a terrible survey.
The assumption is that SUV is a defined thing. A specific size. A specific problem.

Most people, I would imagine, can tell the difference between a Range Rover or a Volvo XC90 and a Toyota Yaris Cross.
All three of those are SUVs.

The Yaris is 4m in length, 1.76m wide and 1.59m high
The Range Rover is 5.25m long, 1.99m wide and 1.87m high
The XC90 is 4.95m long, 1.92m wide and 1.77m high.

These three cars are not the same.

My car is an SUV - an ID4. 4.5m long, 1.8m wide and 1.64m high. Closer to the Yaris than the Range Rover - it's about as big as we would like to go.

Most people don't want a battleship sized car - and those are the ones that are dangerous for pedestrians.

 

[briantrumpet]

Forget SUVs, there's a far bigger worry!

 

[briantrumpet]

He's resigned, but without addressing any of the issues raised.

https://goodlawproject.org/an-update-from-jason-arday/

It seems unlikely he's going to get much sympathy from fellow academics.

 

[Pross]

Ooh, ooh, there's a word for people like that isn't there? Starts with C?

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Problem is, if you need something with a bit of space these days, they are the only option. As someone considering a new car at some point soon and wanting decent load capacity I would like an estate car but the available options are few and far between especially with EVs and the prices of the few available are too high.

I appreciate in most cases they are a definite choice though and the owner doesn’t need the space.

 

[Dorset Boy]

Problem is, if you need something with a bit of space these days, they are the only option. As someone considering a new car at some point soon and wanting decent load capacity I would like an estate car but the available options are few and far between especially with EVs and the prices of the few available are too high.

I appreciate in most cases they are a definite choice though and the owner doesn’t need the space.

How do you know the owner doesn't need the space? That's a heck of a generalisation, but to be expected here.
They may need that space for a handful of trips each year - maybe a trip to the airport with their bike box and that of a friend, maybe a camping trip with the family, maybe a trip run.
Would you rather they had another small car clogging up the street parking for all their other weekly needs?

 

[Mr Celine]

Mrs Celine observed that all her fellow beekeepers drive estates and not SUVs.
It's much easier to fit a beehive in an estate.

 

[Pblakeney]

How do you know the owner doesn't need the space? That's a heck of a generalisation, but to be expected here.
They may need that space for a handful of trips each year - maybe a trip to the airport with their bike box and that of a friend, maybe a camping trip with the family, maybe a trip run.
Would you rather they had another small car clogging up the street parking for all their other weekly needs?

The bold part is not the best example to use. That, plus all luggage can fit in a Golf.

 

[First Aspect]

Clever?

This is a terrible article based on a terrible survey.
The assumption is that SUV is a defined thing. A specific size. A specific problem.

Most people, I would imagine, can tell the difference between a Range Rover or a Volvo XC90 and a Toyota Yaris Cross.
All three of those are SUVs.

The Yaris is 4m in length, 1.76m wide and 1.59m high
The Range Rover is 5.25m long, 1.99m wide and 1.87m high
The XC90 is 4.95m long, 1.92m wide and 1.77m high.

These three cars are not the same.

My car is an SUV - an ID4. 4.5m long, 1.8m wide and 1.64m high. Closer to the Yaris than the Range Rover - it's about as big as we would like to go.

Most people don't want a battleship sized car - and those are the ones that are dangerous for pedestrians.

Isn't the issue mainly about the bonnet height right at the front?

In your case you have selfishly put the battery underneath everything else, leading to a relatively tall car.

 

[briantrumpet]

Isn't the issue mainly about the bonnet height right at the front?

It's a double whammy - reduced visibility of small people, and a battering ram that doesn't let them roll over the bonnet when hit, bringing all the crucial body bits into much greater peril. Splat.

 

[briantrumpet]

Problem is, if you need something with a bit of space these days, they are the only option. As someone considering a new car at some point soon and wanting decent load capacity I would like an estate car but the available options are few and far between especially with EVs and the prices of the few available are too high.

I appreciate in most cases they are a definite choice though and the owner doesn’t need the space.

The thing is that if buyers just, erm, roll over and say "OK, fine" when the manufacturers offer lethal SUVs, then it just perpetuates the problem. They are basically "Make sure my family and I are safe, that overrides any concerns for people outside of my protective box."

Not only that, but they go against the basic laws of physics that mean you want to keep weight down low on things that sometimes roll over. Estates are what people should be offered and buying, if they need to move lots of stuff around.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

It seems unlikely he's going to get much sympathy from fellow academics.

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I don't say this to excuse Arday, if he is a bit of an habitual liar (which does seem more than likely based on the evidence) then he deserves to be called to account for it. Having said that, if things like institutional racism and unconscious bias didn't exist then this wouldn't be an issue in the first place. My understanding is his appointment came off the back of greater scrutiny of academic institutions for the lack of black Professors and senior academics and Cambridge were certainly complicit in the very public fanfare around his appointment. If there was greater and more equal representation across a lot of fields then there would be no singling out of individuals (either for praise or scorn according to certain agendas) and this mess could have been avoided.

 

[briantrumpet]

I don't say this to excuse Arday, if he is a bit of an habitual liar (which does seem more than likely based on the evidence) then he deserves to be called to account for it. Having said that, if things like institutional racism and unconscious bias didn't exist then this wouldn't be an issue in the first place. My understanding is his appointment came off the back of greater scrutiny of academic institutions for the lack of black Professors and senior academics and Cambridge were certainly complicit in the very public fanfare around his appointment. If there was greater and more equal representation across a lot of fields then there would be no singling out of individuals (either for praise or scorn according to certain agendas) and this mess could have been avoided.

All agreed, which is why I say it's all very disappointing. (And also because I wouldn't be surprised if there's racism involved in singling him out for scrutiny.)

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

The thing is that if buyers just, erm, roll over and say "OK, fine" when the manufacturers offer lethal SUVs, then it just perpetuates the problem. They are basically "Make sure my family and I are safe, that overrides any concerns for people outside of my protective box."

Not only that, but they go against the basic laws of physics that mean you want to keep weight down low on things that sometimes roll over. Estates are what people should be offered and buying, if they need to move lots of stuff around.

I don't own one and never would, but is safety the primary factor (genuine question)? I have always thought, particularly with the large expensive stuff like a Range Rover, that they were more about status for a lot of people. There are many large RR type cars on my estate, I know who most are owned by and they are not family cars.