BRFR Cake Stop 'breaking news' miscellany

[briantrumpet]

Tangentially, one of our sons made a dark joke on social media. My wife said that it was inappropriate but funny. They both got piled on.
Wokeism has cancelled dark humour.

Yeah, I'm sure that there are a few DP jokes out there but which the internet isn't ready for, but Bluesky in particular can be amazingly humourless, and doesn't really do dark, or irony, or anything not-obvious, particularly if you don't use emojis. Which, in a way, is hilarious, when people utterly miss the humour.

 

[AuroraSaab]

I'll take that as a yes.

The press coverage and agenda? Move along, nothing to see here.

You can take it any way you like. I do think some of the coverage used him/the case as a stick to beat DEI in general with. There was plenty of racism in the social media comments. I don't think the initial TES investigation surrounding the core issues was racially motivated. I don't think it's racist to question some of the things he claimed. If you can't grasp the difference between that view and what you claim I've said I can't really help you any further.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

Tangentially, one of our sons made a dark joke on social media. My wife said that it was inappropriate but funny. They both got piled on.
Wokeism has cancelled dark humour.

Brits do dark humour better than anyone else. It actually comes from a deep sense of reverence though, coupled with a humility and self deprecation. When it's done properly, if
you understand it, it is actually respectful.

My wife definitely doesn't get it. My Dad (like a lot of older men) had an obsession with wheelie bins, particularly how much rubbish he could fit in one. When he died, I told my wife that as a mark of respect we were putting his body in the wheelie bin as it would be the single biggest deposit he had made. I still don't think she has forgiven me.

 

[Ian H]

Yeah, I'm sure that there are a few DP jokes out there but which the internet isn't ready for, but Bluesky in particular can be amazingly humourless, and doesn't really do dark, or irony, or anything not-obvious, particularly if you don't use emojis. Which, in a way, is hilarious, when people utterly miss the humour.

Charles Lamb, around 200 years ago, bemoaned the inability to distinguish between the fictional badness or evil, and real life.
Idle gallantry in a fiction, a dream, the passing pageant of an evening, startles us in the same way as the alarming indications of profligacy in a son or ward in real life should startle a parent or guardian. We have no such middle emotions as dramatic interests left. We see a stage libertine playing his loose pranks of two hours' duration, and of no after consequence, with the severe eyes which inspect real vices with their bearings upon two worlds. We are spectators to a plot or intrigue (not reducible in life to the point of strict morality) and take it all for truth. We substitute a real for a dramatic person, and judge him accordingly. We try him in our courts, from which there is no appeal to the dramatis personæ, his peers. We have been spoiled with—not sentimental comedy—but a tyrant far more pernicious to our pleasures which has succeeded to it, the exclusive and all devouring drama of common life; where the moral point is every thing;
[On the Artificial Comedy of the Last Century]

 

[Rusty Nails]

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You can take it any way you like. I do think some of the coverage used him/the case as a stick to beat DEI in general with. There was plenty of racism in the social media comments. I don't think the initial TES investigation surrounding the core issues was racially motivated. I don't think it's racist to question some of the things he claimed. If you can't grasp the difference between that view and what you claim I've said I can't really help you any further.

I don't really give a toss about social media comments...sad people just jump on bandwagons to air their prejudices.

If you can't see the possible links to racism in the difference between the level and type of questioning necessary for a possible case of academic plagiarism and the national media pile on that took place over Arday and his appointment by Cambridge, then really you are beyond my help.

 

[Pblakeney]

Brits do dark humour better than anyone else. It actually comes from a deep sense of reverence though, coupled with a humility and self deprecation. When it's done properly, if
you understand it, it is actually respectful.

My wife definitely doesn't get it. My Dad (like a lot of older men) had an obsession with wheelie bins, particularly how much rubbish he could fit in one. When he died, I told my wife that as a mark of respect we were putting his body in the wheelie bin as it would be the single biggest deposit he had made. I still don't think she has forgiven me.

I don't think it is purely coincidence that it was the younger members of the family that took offence. "You can't say that!"
There has been a definite shift in cultural norms. I suppose there always has been.

 

[Beebo]

Bloody hell.
Dolly Parton and Tim Curry, both dead at 80.
Trump still alive at 80.
Where is the justice in this.

 

[briantrumpet]

Could go under 'Good news' - Meta appears to effectively concede the harm its products do to children.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cy5v0vrlp4xt

• Facebook and Instagram owner Meta has agreed to pay up to $18bn (£13.24bn) to settle claims brought by 29 US states that its platforms harmed children
• As part of the agreement, Meta says it will make changes to its platforms nationwide - including daily limits and night-time blocks for teenage users

 

[C R]

Bloody hell.
Dolly Parton and Tim Curry, both dead at 80.
Trump still alive at 80.
Where is the justice in this.

PZ Myers and I concur

 

[briantrumpet]

PZ Myers and I concur
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A side note. Once upon a time, 80 seemed like a decent age. Now I'm 62, I'm not so sure.

 

[Beebo]

A side note. Once upon a time, 80 seemed like a decent age. Now I'm 62, I'm not so sure.

Both my parents are 80 next year. Eek!

Curry has been very poorly for a long time and was a heavy smoker and drinker. So he did well to make 80.
Dolly apparently had cancer.

 

[AndyRM]

Just stay away from Cher and Liza.

 

[Beebo]

Just stay away from Cher and Liza.

Freddie Mercury would have been 80 next week.
5th September 1946.

 

[AndyRM]

Freddie Mercury would have been 80 next week.
5th September 1946.

Well yeah, but he died in 1991...

 

[briantrumpet]

Well yeah, but he died in 1991...

One of the things that could go in the 'trivially annoying (or whatever)' thread is friends on FB doing the 'heavenly birthdays' thing. No, they are dead. Remember them dearly in your thoughts, if that's your thing, but let's not pretend they can eat heavenly jelly and ice cream on what was their birthday.