Can the (Met) police ever change?

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

or this https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/n...-officer-admits-calling-newborn-baby-a-whore/
As long as these kind of persons can work for the Police it will not change.

 

[newfhouse]

View: https://twitter.com/lowkey0nline/status/1571087000610148352?s=21&t=ONNkqdTkTAXc7c1e7NmqFg

 

[glasgowcyclist]

View: https://twitter.com/lowkey0nline/status/1571087000610148352?s=21&t=ONNkqdTkTAXc7c1e7NmqFg

That’s completely out of order but not exactly unusual. There are more than a few cops who feel the uniform lets them ignore basic legal principles so they can harass the public. What they’re doing there is prosecutable in Scotland as a breach of the peace; putting someone in a state of fear and alarm By persistently following them.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

View: https://twitter.com/lowkey0nline/status/1571087000610148352?s=21&t=ONNkqdTkTAXc7c1e7NmqFg

Brave lass. Fear in her voice but she did it anyway.

 

[Xipe Totec]

That’s completely out of order but not exactly unusual. There are more than a few cops who feel the uniform lets them ignore basic legal principles so they can harass the public. What they’re doing there is prosecutable in Scotland as a breach of the peace; putting someone in a state of fear and alarm By persistently following them.

What's she going to do though - call the police?

 

[glasgowcyclist]

What's she going to do though - call the police?

I think she’s supposed to flag down a bus or something.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

This latest revelation suggests the answer to this thread’s question is; probably not.

A retired police officer, who was a member of the same specialist protection group as Sarah Everard’s murderer, has passed dozens of offensive WhatsApp group messages to the BBC for investigation. As a result, an immigration officer with the Home Office (and former police officer who also served in that specialist protection group) has been suspended on suspicion of gross misconduct.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63147341

Dave Eden, a former member of the DPG, has been on the WhatsApp group since its creation in 2016 and passed the messages to the BBC. He says he has never posted in the group.
"There are references to black politicians, which are extremely unpleasant," he told the BBC. "The entire undertone is one of racism and misogyny."
Mr Eden was a police officer for 27 years and retired in 2010. Throughout that time he has collected evidence - some shared with the BBC - showing prejudice in British policing.
It comes as a serving officer with the Met has also shared a racist image with Newsnight, which he says has been doing the rounds on WhatsApp in recent months. The image is too offensive to publish and involves a picture of black babies.
Another serving officer, who spoke to the BBC on condition of anonymity, said: "I do not think these behaviours and ideologies can be removed from the Met.
"Individuals need to be held accountable and made an example of to demonstrate to colleagues that these behaviours and ideologies have no place in the Met. I fail to see any substantial improvement within the organisation."

The Metropolitan Police said it had contacted Mr Eden's representatives in the Spring, when it first learnt about the messages "but they declined to share further details". In a statement to Newsnight, it said: "We urge them to reconsider so we can take action".
Mr Eden said: "I don't trust the system. I don't trust professional standards or senior management and if I was to ever speak to the Met it would be someone of very senior rank."

Racism and misogyny of this level can’t be so deep-rooted without at least the acquiescence of senior staff.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Can't see why they would need 'further details'. Surely they could quickly find out which WhatsApp group he was in and take it from there themselves. Looking for an excuse not to bother and seeing it as not much of a big deal by the sounds of it. You can't have confidence in the Met policing 'without fear or favour' if officers are routinely circulating racist comments amongst themselves.

 

[Craig the cyclist]

Can't see why they would need 'further details'. Surely they could quickly find out which WhatsApp group he was in and take it from there themselves. Looking for an excuse not to bother and seeing it as not much of a big deal by the sounds of it. You can't have confidence in the Met policing 'without fear or favour' if officers are routinely circulating racist comments amongst themselves.

WhatsApp has very sophisticated encryption, unless you are in the group, or the intended recipient of the message, no-one can see what it was/they were.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Another Met officer charged with stalking:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...imon-appears-court-face-stalking-charges.html

In other news from the same paper, I'm disappointed to find that this fekker is still alive.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Cooke-95-granted-new-appeal-bid-freedom.html

 

[newfhouse]

View: https://twitter.com/gem_abbott/status/1580481732129628161?t=KbWiHsD3sgrQIVUvQIctdw&s=19

 

[mudsticks]

Here's a novel idea for combatting sexism and racism in the Met.


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...t-and-racist-officers-met-police-report-rules

 

[Craig the cyclist]

View: https://twitter.com/gem_abbott/status/1580481732129628161?t=KbWiHsD3sgrQIVUvQIctdw&s=19

So instead of 74 officers being in some injured at the festival, it turns out the actual number is an agreed 60, that were reported. Blimey, well that is ok then. Of those 60 it seems, from the document 39 of them were in some way assaulted/struck by other people or vehicles.

Is Gemma Abbot seriously saying that going to work and seeing 39 of your colleagues to be injured in the course of that work is less important than getting the paperwork correct?

 

[Rusty Nails]

So instead of 74 officers being in some injured at the festival, it turns out the actual number is an agreed 60, that were reported. Blimey, well that is ok then. Of those 60 it seems, from the document 39 of them were in some way assaulted/struck by other people or vehicles.

Is Gemma Abbot seriously saying that going to work and seeing 39 of your colleagues to be injured in the course of that work is less important than getting the paperwork correct?

When you are the Police telling the truth is quite important, especially if you want the public you are supposed to serve to trust you.

 

[mudsticks]

When you are the Police telling the truth is quite important, especially if you want the public you are supposed to serve to trust you.

This is the problem..
The contract of trust is broken, even if it was ever there..

I was on my way from our food n farming rally in Parliament Square yesterday and just backed myself up against the wall to check on my phone where I was supposed to be meeting friends later .

I was approached by two (male) Met officers who asked me what my intentions were, was I anything to do with XR, did I have any paint in my bag etc etc

I deflected most of their unwarranted questions and worked the conversation around to 'best route to Soho' , but they still made me feel uncomfortable, unecessarily intruded upon.

And that's me as a 'well spoken' middle aged white woman - the 'sort' usually fairly immune to harassment by the police ...

If I feel uncomfortable in their presence, then I can only imagine how little trust those less privileged, and far more vulnerable, feel in this 'force'.