Can the (Met) police ever change?

[Deleted member 49]

Well, five, of whom only one appears to have direct experience, in this case the rape counsellor, and what she says is both compelling and worrying.

There is clearly a problem and it is not being dealt with effectively.

At the very least these elite units need disbanding.Surely some of the top brass need to be held to account aswell.

View: https://twitter.com/vicderbyshire/status/1623107987530305538?t=JKhi8x0LRupXj0NLdPVSSg&s=19

 

[Salty seadog]

View: https://youtu.be/EpfLhkuMngk

 

[newfhouse]

A long but interesting read. If they are prepared to lie in a case as relatively trivial as this, is it any wonder that public mistrust is so common?


View: https://medium.com/@harrythetallcyclist/how-i-got-arrested-for-being-a-pedestrian-a66bd3c86472

 

[Deleted member 28]

A long but interesting read. If they are prepared to lie in a case as relatively trivial as this, is it any wonder that public mistrust is so common?


View: https://medium.com/@harrythetallcyclist/how-i-got-arrested-for-being-a-pedestrian-a66bd3c86472

Cool story bro. (The author not you obviously, edited for clarity).

 

[Rusty Nails]

Cool story bro.

I know you picked it up from this forum, but you still don't really understand how that phrase is used, do you?

 

[Deleted member 28]

I know you picked it up from this forum, but you still don't really understand how that phrase is used, do you?

Oh I do, its aimed at the fella who wrote the article obviously.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Oh I do, its aimed at the fella who wrote the article obviously.

Presumably there are court records to confirm or disprove his story. The police would certainly disprove it if they could.

 

[spen666]

A long but interesting read. If they are prepared to lie in a case as relatively trivial as this, is it any wonder that public mistrust is so common?


View: https://medium.com/@harrythetallcyclist/how-i-got-arrested-for-being-a-pedestrian-a66bd3c86472

Its very clear from reading that story that the writer was arrested for "failing the attitude test" and is telling a rather slanted version of events.

The sense of self entitlement is very high.

I suspect ( and it is based on my experiences of dealing with both police & public) that this matter would have proceeded very differently if the writer had behaved without such a sense of entitlement.

The writers conduct resulted in the offending motorists getting away with their behaviour whilst the writer talked himself into arrest/ There is a time and a place to lecture police on the exercise of their powers, the lack of vegan milk, the literature provided in the cells [Incidentally, he was lucky to be provided with anything to read! There is no obligation on the police to provide a library of reading material].

 

[Rusty Nails]

Its very clear from reading that story that the writer was arrested for "failing the attitude test" and is telling a rather slanted version of events.

The sense of self entitlement is very high.

I suspect ( and it is based on my experiences of dealing with both police & public) that this matter would have proceeded very differently if the writer had behaved without such a sense of entitlement.

The writers conduct resulted in the offending motorists getting away with their behaviour whilst the writer talked himself into arrest/ There is a time and a place to lecture police on the exercise of their powers, the lack of vegan milk, the literature provided in the cells [Incidentally, he was lucky to be provided with anything to read! There is no obligation on the police to provide a library of reading material].

I know you put the attitude bit in quotes but that should have nothing to do with it unless the public are just supposed to respond without question to anything a police officer says no matter how little that officer apparently knows about the law or how to enforce it fairly.

Neither attitude, nor "self-entitlement", whatever that is, are crimes, or even misdemeanours afaik.

 

[C R]

Its very clear from reading that story that the writer was arrested for "failing the attitude test" and is telling a rather slanted version of events.

The sense of self entitlement is very high.

I suspect ( and it is based on my experiences of dealing with both police & public) that this matter would have proceeded very differently if the writer had behaved without such a sense of entitlement.

The writers conduct resulted in the offending motorists getting away with their behaviour whilst the writer talked himself into arrest/ There is a time and a place to lecture police on the exercise of their powers, the lack of vegan milk, the literature provided in the cells [Incidentally, he was lucky to be provided with anything to read! There is no obligation on the police to provide a library of reading material].

Next time I mug someone I'll make sure I get them to sound entitled to the police so that the police charge the victim instead of me.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Its very clear from reading that story that the writer was arrested for "failing the attitude test" and is telling a rather slanted version of events.

The sense of self entitlement is very high.

I suspect ( and it is based on my experiences of dealing with both police & public) that this matter would have proceeded very differently if the writer had behaved without such a sense of entitlement.

The writers conduct resulted in the offending motorists getting away with their behaviour whilst the writer talked himself into arrest/ There is a time and a place to lecture police on the exercise of their powers, the lack of vegan milk, the literature provided in the cells [Incidentally, he was lucky to be provided with anything to read! There is no obligation on the police to provide a library of reading material].

No sense of entitlement to fabricate charges on the part of the police officer concerned then....?

 

[newfhouse]

arrested for "failing the attitude test"

Yes, that's the whole point of telling the story. Such a test has no basis in law, as I'm sure you know.

 

[Deleted member 28]

Its very clear from reading that story that the writer was arrested for "failing the attitude test" and is telling a rather slanted version of events.

The sense of self entitlement is very high.

I suspect ( and it is based on my experiences of dealing with both police & public) that this matter would have proceeded very differently if the writer had behaved without such a sense of entitlement.

The writers conduct resulted in the offending motorists getting away with their behaviour whilst the writer talked himself into arrest/ There is a time and a place to lecture police on the exercise of their powers, the lack of vegan milk, the literature provided in the cells [Incidentally, he was lucky to be provided with anything to read! There is no obligation on the police to provide a library of reading material].

In other words 'the blokes a c*ck and got what he deserved '.

 

[Ian H]

Its very clear from reading that story that the writer was arrested for "failing the attitude test" and is telling a rather slanted version of events.

The sense of self entitlement is very high.

Slanted in what way? From what evidence?

I'd like to think that I am entitled not to be arrested merely because a copper doesn't like my attitude.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Norwich Police screwed this one up. As is so often the case with cops who have a bad attitude, they stubbornly painted themselves into a corner and, instead of admitting they overstepped the mark, made themselves look foolish.

They later threatened other pedestrians with arrest too, including a 66yr old woman who walks with the aid of crutches and was fed up with the danger these drivers presented.

A police spokeswoman did later concede that some officers who wrongly waved through drivers would receive guidance.

The farcical situation is reported here:

https://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/new...sing-threatening-behaviour-city-road-blocked/

https://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/new...ice-will-remove-people-block-exchange-street/

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/23112645.norwich-group-slams-norfolk-police-exchange-street-reply/