Cannabis as a Class A drug?

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Beebo

Guru
Biden has just issued a mass pardon for all marijuana convictions.
Again we are totally out of step with the US.
 

winjim

Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
Biden has just issued a mass pardon for all marijuana convictions.
Again we are totally out of step with the US.

Possession convictions I believe, and also looking into the classification. Apparently under federal law it is classified at the same level as heroin.
 

Ian H

Legendary Member
Does making certain drugs illegal reduce the supply or help those who are adversely affected by their use?
If illegal drugs are nevertheless widely available, is there any quality control to ensure that the user gets an unaldulterated product of known strength?
Is there any evidence that harm increases when drugs are legalised?
 

Fab Foodie

Legendary Member
Does making certain drugs illegal reduce the supply or help those who are adversely affected by their use?
If illegal drugs are nevertheless widely available, is there any quality control to ensure that the user gets an unaldulterated product of known strength?
Is there any evidence that harm increases when drugs are legalised?

This is NACA, please stop being so sensible....
 

Craig the cyclist

Über Member
Is there any evidence that harm increases when drugs are legalised?
Benzodiazepines, opioids, steroids, tobacco, alcohol. They are all legal and cause huge amounts of harm. Why wouldn't it be the same for cannabis?

Is there any evidence that harm decreases when drugs are legalised?
 

Ian H

Legendary Member
Benzodiazepines, opioids, steroids, tobacco, alcohol. They are all legal and cause huge amounts of harm. Why wouldn't it be the same for cannabis?

Is there any evidence that harm decreases when drugs are legalised?

Is 'why wouldn't it' a sound basis for making law?
 
Benzodiazepines, opioids, steroids, tobacco, alcohol. They are all legal and cause huge amounts of harm. Why wouldn't it be the same for cannabis?

Is there any evidence that harm decreases when drugs are legalised?

If legalisation implies regulated supply and sale then it should as the risk arising from additives etc would reduce.

AIUI it's fairly common for heroin addicts to suffer overdoses when they get an unexpected 'clean' dose rather than one that's adulterated.
 
'Let's give it a try and see' isn't much better when you are talking about something that is basically a recreational thing and where legalising it has a risk but doesn't bring any massive public benefit, other than freeing up police time.

If legalisation implies regulated supply and sale then it should as the risk arising from additives etc would reduce.

AIUI it's fairly common for heroin addicts to suffer overdoses when they get an unexpected 'clean' dose rather than one that's adulterated.

Opoids on prescription are pure and without additives. So are cigarettes. The danger is in the nature of the product itself and in its addictiveness, surely.

( As an aside, interesting stats on UK drug deaths 2021 here. Mostly heroin and cocaine, mostly aged 45-49 Generation X ie born late 60's/70's, big North South divide, men have double the death rate of women.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...gpoisoninginenglandandwales/2021registrations)

I'm not saying cannabis is as addictive as legal opiates or illegal cocaine. But we do know there are long term effects and once it's legalised there will be no going back.
 
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