Climate Crisis: Are we doing enough?

[albion]

Away from cloud cuckoo land Musk hits the nail on the head.

China makes it so, though he forgets the fact that China also makes cheap wind energy.
They just need to sort the energy storage out, hydrogen the main candidate.

 

[mjr]

Away from cloud cuckoo land Musk hits the nail on the head.

Even a stopped clock...

They just need to sort the energy storage out, hydrogen the main candidate.

Hydrogen is still mainly a way to greenwash fossil fuels. It's a big danger of misleading climate change funding and policy, maybe second only to carbon capture.

 

[matticus]

Soup chuckers get 2 years and 20 months respectively.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly7zy3d3exo

2 years for Criminal Damage you say? Should we assume that Judge Hehir tends to hand out harsher sentences? Let's see ....

Judge Hehir was recently referred to the Court of Appeal by the Solicitor General for being unduly lenient – having given suspended sentences to a police officer who had sex in a patrol car with a drunk woman he offered to take home.

He allowed a man who deliberately crashed a car into the gates of Downing Street and was found with the most serious type of indecent images of children aged eight to 12 to leave the court with a suspended sentence (BBC).

In 2022 the Law Gazette reported that Judge Hehir did not imprison a man who pleaded guilty violent disorder, and later to assault occasioning actual bodily harm and battery, another who pleaded guilty to a count of violent disorder and a third who pleaded guilty to one count of affray.
[sorry. lost the URL for the above!]
Gavin Collins was an off-duty police officer enjoying a night out in central London when he was attacked by a pair of thugs. They repeatedly punched and kicked him, even after he’d been floored. Gavin needed titanium plates in his cheek and one eye socket following the unprovoked attack. The thugs went on to punch and kick another officer as well as an innocent bystander.

One of the attackers had three previous convictions for similar offences of common assault in the previous three years. As it happened the thugs were brothers, and the sons of one of Britain’s richest property tycoons.

But they were in luck. When they eventually appeared before Recorder Christopher Hehir in Southwark Crown Court, the judge was in a forgiving mood. The thugs were given suspended sentences
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/...esters-is-the-mark-of-a-broken-justice-system

 

[matticus]

Meanwhile:

...

Dr Charlie Gardner
@CharlieJGardner
This tweet is not actually advocating for planting trees. Here's two things that are much better than that:

- stopping existing forests being cut down
- letting forests grow back through natural regeneration

 

[AuroraSaab]

Deterrent sentence for the soup chuckers I expect. I'm not of the 'It was only soup' viewpoint but as you point out, assault receives lower tariffs. Possession of child abuse images doesn't seem to warrant jail these days either.

 

[icowden]

Possession of child abuse images doesn't seem to warrant jail these days either.

It hasn't at any time if it is within the lower culpability range. If you are referring to Huw Edwards, it did warrant jail time, but the Judge ordered that the jail time be suspended on various grounds. This is often done where the perpetrator is not considered to be at risk of reoffending. It helps make space in prisons for the violent offenders and rapists etc.

 

[matticus]

Deterrent sentence for the soup chuckers I expect. I'm not of the 'It was only soup' viewpoint

It's quite clearly a deterrent for protest.
Mental gymnastics are required to make any other conclusion!

If you're ok with that...

 

[AuroraSaab]

It hasn't at any time if it is within the lower culpability range. If you are referring to Huw Edwards,

I wasn't. The number of images involved meant he was never going to jail. I mean the ones with hundreds of thousands of images who don't go to jail.

It's quite clearly a deterrent for protest.
Mental gymnastics are required to make any other conclusion! If you're ok with that...

I'm OK with the principle of deterrent sentences. Those were excessive.

 

[Wobblers]

It hasn't at any time if it is within the lower culpability range. If you are referring to Huw Edwards, it did warrant jail time, but the Judge ordered that the jail time be suspended on various grounds. This is often done where the perpetrator is not considered to be at risk of reoffending. It helps make space in prisons for the violent offenders and rapists etc.

So throwing soup at a painting is an act of violence?

 

[icowden]

So throwing soup at a painting is an act of violence?

Nope. I fundamentally disagree with their imprisonment and with the act of parliament that made it a custodial offence. This was enacted by the previous government and is an infringement of civil liberties.

 

[albion]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-denies-climate-crisis-after-hurricane-helene

Dangerous grifting indeed.

 

[albion]

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-years-from-building-enough-onshore-windfarms
...'proposals to speed up planning permission “where there is local support” for onshore wind.'

Bunch of idiots. So those remote 2nd homes still get to veto our future?

 

[BoldonLad]

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-years-from-building-enough-onshore-windfarms
...'proposals to speed up planning permission “where there is local support” for onshore wind.'

Bunch of idiots. So those remote 2nd homes still get to veto our future?

Yes, well, it is unlikely to be “us” who own those remote homes, is it?, but, those can afford to give gifts may well do so

 

[Rusty Nails]

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-years-from-building-enough-onshore-windfarms
...'proposals to speed up planning permission “where there is local support” for onshore wind.'

Bunch of idiots. So those remote 2nd homes still get to veto our future?

Taken you 15 months to react to that article about ideas from a former government.
And of course remote second homers vastly outnumber people who actually live on the coast full time.

 

[albion]

It popped up in a news feed. And things are moving at a snails pace now with regards to onshore wind.
The most suited places have minimal population.

https://www.energylivenews.com/2024/06/30/uk-electricity-bills-highest-in-europe/
There are a few reasons, offshore monopolisation of wind power being one.