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Pale Rider

Pale Rider

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Bromptonaut said:
I would imagine that convictions etc would provide a reasonable starting point.
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Still quite difficult to gather in one place, as I understand it.

Ethnicity may not be recorded with the conviction, so even if you got the list you'd be stuck with 'his name sounds white' or 'sounds Asian'.

It's also been officially accepted some police forces didn't go after Asian gangs out of a mis-placed sense of political correctness, which means convictions are not a reliable source, albeit better than nothing.
 
Bromptonaut

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Pale Rider said:
It's also been officially accepted some police forces didn't go after Asian gangs out of a mis-placed sense of political correctness, which means convictions are not a reliable source, albeit better than nothing.
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The report on Rotherham suggested that there was a reluctance in some quarters, taxi licencing was one ISTR, to put heads over the parapet.

Would you be able to provide a source that has officially confirmed the reluctance you suggest?
 
deptfordmarmoset

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Pale Rider said:
It's a shame the Muslim pressure group who made the complaint didn't concentrate more on dealing with the undoubted problems they have in their community.

There are more white grooming gangs (in a predominantly white country) than Asian ones.

That's alright, then.
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If Braverman hadn't decided to mislead, the Centre for Media Monitoring would not have had to complain. And it's the misleading and deliberate singling out of British-Pakistani communities that is the real shame, something which does nothing to put clear thinking into understanding and dealing with the problem. The CMM are simply doing what they're meant to do. If only Braverman did what she's meant to do.


Also, one has said that it's alright.
 
Pale Rider

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deptfordmarmoset said:
If Braverman hadn't decided to mislead, the Centre for Media Monitoring would not have had to complain. And it's the misleading and deliberate singling out of British-Pakistani communities that is the real shame, something which does nothing to put clear thinking into understanding and dealing with the problem. The CMM are simply doing what they're meant to do. If only Braverman did what she's meant to do.


Also, one has said that it's alright.
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What bothers me is no one really gives a stuff about the abused kids.

The Centre for Media Monitoring is blindly supporting its community, and the resulting judgment is trumpeted on here by posters who are only interested in making a political point about Braverman/the Tories.

She got it wrong and the Mail has/will print an apology/correction.

Shoot her, I say.
 
Pale Rider

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Rusty Nails said:
That she got it wrong is not really the issue.
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You got that right.

What she could have said, truthfully, is British Asians are thoroughly over-represented in grooming gangs in terms of our population mix.

There is a culture clash at play here.

Asian girls tend to dress far more demurely than English ones - no short skirts or acres of cleavage on show.

When (some) Asian men see girls dressed like that they think they are slutty/asking for it.

There's also been plenty of stories of police in India/Pakistan barely bothering to investigate the rape of young girls.

Thus the attitude to children and women in general is vastly different between the two cultures.

Which is also what the much-maligned Braverman was on about when she said multi-racialism was fine, but multi-culturalism has failed.

This topic is one example, white British people generally accept Asians, but there is no way they will ever accept certain aspects of their culture.

The reverse is also true, so there is conflict in both directions.
 
newfhouse

newfhouse

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Pale Rider said:
Shoot her, I say.
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Hard agree.

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multitool

multitool

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https://www.theguardian.com/politic...se-on-her-intervention?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
 
mudsticks

mudsticks

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Pale Rider said:
You got that right.

What she could have said, truthfully, is British Asians are thoroughly over-represented in grooming gangs in terms of our population mix.

There is a culture clash at play here.

Asian girls tend to dress far more demurely than English ones - no short skirts or acres of cleavage on show.

When (some) Asian men see girls dressed like that they* think they are slutty/asking for it.

There's also been plenty of stories of police in India/Pakistan barely bothering to investigate the rape of young girls.

Thus the attitude to children and women in general is vastly different between the two cultures.

Which is also what the much-maligned Braverman was on about when she said multi-racialism was fine, but multi-culturalism has failed.

This topic is one example, white British people generally accept Asians, but there is no way they will ever accept certain aspects of their culture.

The reverse is also true, so there is conflict in both directions.
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*Yeah and no white western men ever think, articulate, or even act upon their shitty opinions about women do they??

'The recent 'shaggability' example being just one one of a litany.

There is no evidence that one ethnicity grooms or abuses more than another.
There are misogynistic, abusive people across all 'cultures' and ethnicities, the tactics may vary the mindset of judgement, and entitlement is the same.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65174096
 
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