Does anybody here take the Greens seriously?

[CXRAndy]

Yep, that's the kind of thing I was thinking. Showing flexibility of thinking in times of rapid change is mature politics.

Or throwing out random catchy headlines to sucker soy, liberal lefties

 

[Ian H]

10/10 for getting the correct number of U's in your last word there.

Is there a non-U version?

 

[briantrumpet]

Is there a non-U version?

It's quite often written as rigeur, not least, I suspect, as that looks equally as wrong to English eyes as rigueur.

Mind you, neither of those look as wrong to my eyes as the US spelling of 'maneuver', which became the prescribed US spelling in about 1900. They still have the word 'oeuvre' in the US dictionary, bizarrely (or should that be 'bizzarly'?)

 

[briantrumpet]

He's not announcing anything. He's saying "consider" ie raising a threat, a bit of potential push back without actually doing anything. He's saying to Trũmp that we have options and recognise those might be needed with the ongoing insanity.

I think you're cutting him too much slack, especially given the timing. Like Badenoch, this is the sort of stuff that might be fun in a school debating society, not if you want to be taken seriously as a national politician.

 

[Psamathe]

Re: Polanski's Considerations re NATO/Nuclear

I think you're cutting him too much slack, especially given the timing. Like Badenoch, this is the sort of stuff that might be fun in a school debating society, not if you want to be taken seriously as a national politician.

Might be and I don't admire him and whilst he might have improved Green's membership, etc. I regard him as a bit incapable.

But also of the UK's increased defence budget over half is going to our nuclear capability which means real terms people, tanks, communications, etc. are getting a far smaller budget boost that Labour are talking about.

 

[briantrumpet]

Re: Polanski's Considerations re NATO/Nuclear

Might be and I don't admire him and whilst he might have improved Green's membership, etc. I regard him as a bit incapable.

But also of the UK's increased defence budget over half is going to our nuclear capability which means real terms people, tanks, communications, etc. are getting a far smaller budget boost that Labour are talking about.

Not disagreeing with the latter, but to return to my initial point, it seems such an unnecessary and poor political intervention at this particular moment. For sure, have these arguments, but not now. It's a bit like waiting by a quiet road, and then choosing to cross it as the bus to Nempnett Thrubwell passes by at high speed with Doris and her dog Spot on board.

 

[Ian H]

It's quite often written as rigeur, not least, I suspect, as that looks equally as wrong to English eyes as rigueur.

Mind you, neither of those look as wrong to my eyes as the US spelling of 'maneuver', which became the prescribed US spelling in about 1900. They still have the word 'oeuvre' in the US dictionary, bizarrely (or should that be 'bizzarly'?)

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Manoeuvre has a surprising etymology. I'd sort of guessed 'hand'. but not the rest.

 

[briantrumpet]

Manoeuvre has a surprising etymology. I'd sort of guessed 'hand'. but not the rest.

Haha, I'd get the 'hand work' bit, but not the smelly connection

 

[matticus]

Not disagreeing with the latter, but to return to my initial point, it seems such an unnecessary and poor political intervention at this particular moment. For sure, have these arguments, but not now

Why not now? As psamathe has just said, it may be an excellent way to let Trump know we have options.
Options are key to negotiations.

 

[Psamathe]

Not disagreeing with the latter, but to return to my initial point, it seems such an unnecessary and poor political intervention at this particular moment. For sure, have these arguments, but not now. It's a bit like waiting by a quiet road, and then choosing to cross it as the bus to Nempnett Thrubwell passes by at high speed with Doris and her dog Spot on board.

It's one of his strengths which I regard as a weakness. He needs to be heard as he struggles to get press coverage. Unlike Reform Green's are easy for press to ignore. He had an opportunity to try and get some column inches and took it (probably not very successfully).

Not defending him but I can appreciate the challenge when leaders want to be heard and Reform are swallowing up all the Press attention.

 

[briantrumpet]

Why not now? As psamathe has just said, it may be an excellent way to let Trump know we have options.
Options are key to negotiations.

Trump's not going to be listening to Polanski, much less to any 'arguments' he might make. The "Why not now?" is because it makes him look naive to the electorate he needs to get MPs elected. I'd be extremely surprised if they are going to be impressed by his argument, at least now, when suddenly everyone seems to have turned into hawks saying "But do something for god's sake!!"

 

[Psamathe]

The "Why not now?" is because it makes him look naive to the electorate he needs to get MPs elected.

Although less naive than his appearance on "The Rest Is Politics" with regard to the economy where he didn't even appreciate the difference between "deficit" and "debt".

 

[Psamathe]

s because it makes him look naive

Although less naive than his appearance on "The Rest Is Politics" with regard to the economy where he didn't even appreciate the difference between "deficit" and "debt".

Even Rory Stewart who interviewed him (with Alistair Campbell) commented in a subsequent podcast how they'd given him a particularly easy time yet he seemed particularly unaware and shocking in that as a Party leader he hadn't learnt such stuff.

 

[monkers]

Does anyone here take the Greens seriously? Only working age people apparently. Maybe they don't count?

This was shared to me this morning.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2026/01/26/green-party-motion-on-zionism/