TailWindHome
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I do enjoy this use of the word 'confirm'
EU & Brexit Bunker
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Pinno718
Guru
Missed that though my bad as I don't spend much time in the bunker. Perhaps I should but you know my feelings about Brexit anyway. If the Brexit campaign was financed by external people like Thiel, then the undermining of Democracy by the wealthy is a grave implication.
dutchguylivingintheuk
Veteran
Just like the lobbies influencing the current EU you mean? to which the EU answer by funding counterlobbyist, instead of just saying ''maybe poeple trying to buy influence isn't an great idea''. It leads to situations where you have someone overseeing fair competition giving one party known as uber an favorable deal only to work for them soon after she stopped working for the EU.
I know it's easy-er to blame the likes of Farage and such but the whole reason that Brexit happened, and that Nexit would have been a potential outcome is things like that.
On paper the EU is an great idea in practice it has sadly only became more rotten and corrupt. And no that's not to say the uk after brexit is all that great. I think the uk's position in the EU was good for the EU as the Uk was kind of the one pulling the brakes. the one asking the questions ''should we really want this/'' and things like that.
I stand by my view that the EU would have worked better if it wasn't somekind of united states or europe but more a economical and political coorperation. and yes known i will get tons of quotes asking me what the eu actually is, so i will save that hassle. Context is keyword here, i know the EU now is in fact an economical and policital cooreperation. But for example if the EU boss fell it's needed to travel to a member state to say 'if memberstate Y makes choice X that would be in existential crisis for the EU'' that is the problem in my view it should have been just a few laws that are synced so that we can have for example free travel of people, trade deals and stuff. But the current eu has so much control that a conspiracy theory in a other topic about the eu influencing dutch politics (amongst others) which is off course not true or at the very least not proven but we got to this point where the laws (directives for the smart @rsses) cannot even theoritically do that. Which is scary if you value free speech. And yes the UK doesn't do much better.
the snail
Active Member
The main driver of brexit was austerity and failure of government to deal with those left behind and ignored for decades. Farage and Co. exploited people's grievances with his populism and xenophobic lies. The brexit vote was a protest vote against the government more than anything. The majority of people neither knew nor cared about what the EU did beyond vague ideas of directives about bananas etc. There has been a section of the public about 1/3 who have consistently been anti EU, the rest are either apathetic or in favour.
