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theclaud

theclaud

Reading around the chip
Mr Celine said:
You are Michael Gove AICMFP
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HBF
 
Pale Rider

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multitool

multitool

Pharaoh
Pale Rider said:
Ms Hyde is a proper sour puss, but Wootton has made the mistake of bashing on regardless.

It's very easy to knock a man when he's up, a lot harder for lots of reasons to knock him while he's down.

Readers of her column should bear in mind Fleet Street has always been dog eat dog.

This is just the latest example.
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Ad hom attack on Hyde rather than addressing what she says.

I thought you hated that kind of thing?
 
Pale Rider

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multitool said:
Ad hom attack on Hyde rather than addressing what she says.

I thought you hated that kind of thing?
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I have addressed what she says, it's just that I've summarised it as having a pop at Wootton, which is all it is.

I think she qualifies as a sour puss, although no doubt her supporters will say otherwise.

As I said, it is just the latest example of a long line of dog eat dog stories in Fleet Street.

Nothing to see here, although there was plenty to see in the original Byline Times story.

I doubt Ms Hyde knows what a properly researched tale is, let alone how to do one.
 
multitool

multitool

Pharaoh
Pale Rider said:
I have addressed what she says, it's just that I've summarised it as having a pop at Wootton, which is all it is.
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"Having a pop at" doesn't really cut it as incisive critique, more as glob evadiveness.

You'll be horrified when you realise it was you that posted this.

There isn't much to be said yet in Wotton's guilt or otherwise of the alleged crimes, because only Byline Times has addressed it, and thus far we don't even know if the police are investigating.

There is a lot to be said about the right wing cabal of culture warriors circling the wagons to try and protect their own..in spite of an allegation of rape, and of course Wotton's own searingly hypocritical, near-sociopathic response, let alone his grifting in setting up a crowd fund, purportedly to cover his legal costs of suing Byline, but I suspect maybe more about a contingency fund lest he have to pay of his victims.
 
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multitool

multitool

Pharaoh
Pale Rider said:
Quite, as Ms Hyde doesn't realise.

All the rest is just leftie conspiracy theory claptrap.
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I see you are buying Wotton's line of defence.

Again, I'm rather surprised you are waving away a two year investigation into allegations of rape as conspiracy theory. Would be mightily foolish of Byline to publish were they not sure of themselves.

You believe it, I don't.
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Believe what? The allegations?

Come come, Mr Probity. Yet again you surprise and disappoint. It isn't a zero sum game of either belief or disbelief. It is enough that serious allegations have been made.

You are letting your own predilections colour what you consider to be your own impeccable judgement.
 
BoldonLad

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multitool said:
I see you are buying Wotton's line of defence.

Again, I'm rather surprised you are waving away a two year investigation into allegations of rape as conspiracy theory. Would be mightily foolish of Byline to publish were they not sure of themselves.



Believe what? The allegations?

Come come, Mr Probity. Yet again you surprise and disappoint. It isn't a zero sum game of either belief or disbelief. It is enough that serious allegations have been made.

You are letting your own predilections colour what you consider to be your own impeccable judgement.
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Yes, that would appear to be the case,............ sometimes
 
Pale Rider

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multitool said:
I see you are buying Wotton's line of defence.

Again, I'm rather surprised you are waving away a two year investigation into allegations of rape as conspiracy theory. Would be mightily foolish of Byline to publish were they not sure of themselves.



Believe what? The allegations?

Come come, Mr Probity. Yet again you surprise and disappoint. It isn't a zero sum game of either belief or disbelief. It is enough that serious allegations have been made.

You are letting your own predilections colour what you consider to be your own impeccable judgement.
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You appear to believe Ms Hyde's tortuously constructed right wing conspiracy to keep this matter quiet.

The criminality is entirely separate.

I despise all criminals in equal measure, so if Wootton is convicted, it's all but certain I would give him a harsher sentence than he will receive.

Interesting that you believe Byline Times must be fairly sure of its ground to publish - I agree - but you assert anything in The Sun about Edwards must be crap.

Remember, Bylines Times is not the only publication capable of publishing a properly researched story.

Heck, even The Guardian does it on occasion, not that Ms Hyde would know much about that.
 
multitool

multitool

Pharaoh
Pale Rider said:
Interesting that you believe Byline Times must be fairly sure of its ground to publish - I agree - but you assert anything in The Sun about Edwards must be crap.
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Having made that claim, you will now be able to quote the post a quote from me where I make that assertion, won't you.

Heaven forfend that you should be exposed as making something up.
 
Pale Rider

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multitool said:
Having made that claim, you will now be able to quote the post a quote from me where I make that assertion, won't you.

Heaven forfend that you should be exposed as making something up.
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Can't be arsed to go through all your posts on Edwards.

If you defended The Sun for the veracity of its investigative journalism, I will happy withdraw the assertion I made about your assertion.
 
multitool

multitool

Pharaoh
Pale Rider said:
Can't be arsed to go through all your posts on Edwards.
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Then don't pretend to know what others have said.

Back it up, or shut up.

If you defended The Sun for the veracity of its investigative journalism, I will happy withdraw the assertion I made about your assertion.
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The onus is not on me to do anything.

Once again you surprise and disappoint.
 
Pale Rider

Pale Rider

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multitool said:
Then don't pretend to know what others have said.

Back it up, or shut up.



The onus is not on me to do anything.

Once again you surprise and disappoint.
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To simplify things, remind us of your opinion of The Sun and its Edwards story.

On second thoughts, don't bother.

I, and no doubt other members will now be bored by this little spat.
 
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