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monkers

Squire
Your question is a false one. It's whataboutery.


It's not whataboutery. What it is is a question that can't be answered, at least yet.

There are certain differences between us.

There are certainties. The full body of knowledge will never be known. I am certain that I know very little. I don't pretend to know very much.

You on the other hand have convinced yourself that you know everything, to the extent that when asked a question to which the answer is not known, you refuse to say that you don't know, instead accusing me of 'whataboutery'.

You say that it is instinctive to know that biological is the single biggest predictor of sporting prowess. In your eagerness to prove it, you press points of bias, not truths from science.

Yes males have biological advantages in sport when compared to women. But biological advantage can likewise come from inheriting the genes of parents with records of sporting success.

Similar to your appeal to instinct, I point to other instinct, if you will a positive spin on ''the apple doesn't fall from the tree''. You are certain your approach is the correct one. I am uncertain that you are correct, so quite reasonably I question it. So it isn't whataboutery, it is a reasonable line of questioning.

My approach is not one of denying advantage between natal men and natal women, I'm satisfied that is the case. But equally my lived knowledge is that successful parents more often tend to raise more successful children. Is this big news?

What I'm asking you for is some evidence that biological sex is the biggest determinant of success, because I don't know that it is, and you have been unsuccessful in demonstrating that. The question is not whataboutery, it is a search for truth.

There is no reason I should have to accept your claims uncritically, and I won't.

One thing I'm pretty sure is that you are no more able to answer my question than I am. The truth is that, neither of us can know, and neither of us are in a position to make the claim that we know the extent to which biological sex or the inheritance of favourable genes, or resources, sponsorship, or cultural factors, or other factors contribute to the whole.

One other thing I'm pretty sure of is that the science on the sex and or gender development of the brain is a yet known science.

And the last thing that I'm pretty sure of is that there will never be a level playing field in any avenue of life, because money or access to money is always a huge determinant - there will always be those who will have access to more of it, and those who will have less. Those who have or control the majority of wealth are typically male.
 
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You on the other hand have convinced yourself that you know everything, to the extent that when asked a question to which the answer is not known, you refuse to say that you don't know, instead accusing me of 'whataboutery'.

The answer to the question Do males have athletic advantage over females? is known. We know they do because despite equality in funding, training, nutrition, support, and every other variable, women's sports records rarely exceed those of males. The gap has closed but has not been equalled.

The women US Olympic football team have resources and funding most sports can only dream of. They were beaten by a team of 15 year old boys. 6ft, 12st 15 year old boys, who had the strength and speed gains of a male puberty.

What I'm asking you for is some evidence that biological sex is the biggest determinant of success, because I don't know that it is, and you have been unsuccessful in demonstrating that. The question is not whataboutery, it is a search for truth.

Dozens of research papers show male advantage. A study of 82 Olympic events:

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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3761733/#:~:text=The gender gap ranges from,skating and 8.7% in cycling.

One thing I'm pretty sure is that you are no more able to answer my question than I am. The truth is that, neither of us can know, and neither of us are in a position to make the claim that we know the extent to which biological sex or the inheritance of favourable genes, or resources, sponsorship, or cultural factors, or other factors contribute to the whole.

Sports science has answered the question many times over. You try to insist the science is undecided because your purpose here is to have men compete in the women's category.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
Love when the US Women losing to the Dallas FC academy gets brought up (again). It was a game they weren't actually trying to win and wanted to be exposed. If anything it says a lot about what they were trying to do to improve things.
 

monkers

Squire
The answer to the question Do males have athletic advantage over females? is known. We know they do because despite equality in funding, training, nutrition, support, and every other variable, women's sports records rarely exceed those of males. The gap has closed but has not been equalled.


Oh for farks sake you are such a drone.

Each day I come here to post I have to post several times; this is not a point of disagreement. How many more farking time you dim-witted c.unt?

I try so hard to be reasonable but you are like tinitus just an irritating noise.
 
How many more farking time you dim-witted c.unt?

Doesn't take long for the mask to drop these days. You don't accept sports science research as evidence so here's a google AI answer since you rely on AI so much lately.

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As long as you keep pushing for men in women's spaces I'll likely be here to counteract it.
 
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monkers

Squire
Doesn't take long for the mask to drop these days. You don't accept sports science research as evidence so here's a google AI answer since you rely on AI so much lately.

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As long as you keep pushing for men in women's spaces I'll likely be here to counteract it.

Oh just fark off.

Just more repetition of the same shoot over and over.

I'm more than tired of reading the same tired arguments and controlling behaviour. You aren't interested in information or discussion just unceasing vilification of a minority group who pose no threat to you.

Go fark yourself, and now blocked. Bye forever you sad C.unt.
 
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CXRAndy

Veteran
Oh just fark off.

Just more repetition of the same shoot over and over.

I'm more than tired of reading the same tired arguments and controlling behaviour. You aren't interested in information or discussion just unceasing vilification of a minority group who pose no threat to you.

Go fark yourself, and now blocked. Bye forever you sad C.unt.
Just incase you come back to apologise :laugh:
 
Men do pose a threat to women. That doesn't change because they tell us they aren't men.
 
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