Gender again. Sorry!
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AuroraSaab
Shaman
Did you need to go to a minstrel show to form an opinion as to whether it's demeaning or not?
icowden
Shaman
If you are going to persist with this, the only way drag would be demeaning to women is if women had cocks and balls.
How do you explain that Ru Paul's drag race is hugely popular with women (both straight and gay)?
I don't think women feel threatened by drag. That's usually the province of the "backs against the walls lads" type men.
AuroraSaab
Shaman
Nobody's threatened by it. Many people do find it a sexist and demeaning caricature of women, that's a long way from Widow Twanky.
I don't know why some women like Ru Paul's drag race. I would guess that they've had centuries of socialisation into not questioning how women are depicted and seeing it as harmless fun, which is exactly what they used to say about blackface. I don't get why some women opposed the vote or support prostitution either. Just because some women support it doesn't automatically mean it's acceptable. Some women support all kinds of stuff that are harmful to both themselves and other women.
You probably need to ask why that is, and what it says about how the world treats women, before saying 'It must be ok 'cos some women like it'.
View: https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1692121100828746068
I don't know why some women like Ru Paul's drag race. I would guess that they've had centuries of socialisation into not questioning how women are depicted and seeing it as harmless fun, which is exactly what they used to say about blackface. I don't get why some women opposed the vote or support prostitution either. Just because some women support it doesn't automatically mean it's acceptable. Some women support all kinds of stuff that are harmful to both themselves and other women.
You probably need to ask why that is, and what it says about how the world treats women, before saying 'It must be ok 'cos some women like it'.
View: https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1692121100828746068
icowden
Shaman
That clip is a classic example. Jimbo is not mocking breastfeeding, they are sexualising it. Drag is highly sexualised. Nothing to do with women.
AuroraSaab
Shaman
Yet they dress as caricatures of women. I'm not sure your description of drag as sexualising female functions makes it any more palatable.
AndyRM
Elder Goth
Yup, I've been to a minstrel show.
It was f*cked up and I hated it.
So you've not been to a drag show?
