Gender again. Sorry!

[AndyRM]

Where is this "trans community"? Because going off the microcosm of this thread their attempts at indoctrination should be wildly successful.

And yet, there is one trans member on here (who apparently is making everything up), and a non-binary member (me, who apparently doesn't exist).

Howay trans community, get these hetty spaghettis indoctrinated!

 

[monkers]

The evidence available as of now is the NHS records of the patients they already saw. The Tavistock chose not to have a system of follow ups such as surveys, interviews, psychological evaluations, medical updates, with the children they discharged once they'd given them their prescriptions. It would have been far better to have an ongoing assessment of how those children given puberty blockers were faring but that chance is long gone.



That is not what Cass said. It is not what journalists such as Hannah Barnes discovered. Clinicians were so enamoured of the Dutch protocol and so convinced they were doing the right thing they didn't stop to think that they should be measuring the outcomes. Plus groups like Mermaids were allowed input into the clinic, bypassing GP's. Questioning became unacceptable. It was a clinic based on ideology.

As with sports and prisons though, there is no evidence that cannot be dismissed by trans activists because ultimately it's a house of cards that requires everyone to ignore the most obvious of conclusions.

I'm speaking from the knowledge of people who have experienced the problem. They experienced getting appointments as children, were strung along until the age of 18, then discharged and told to apply for adult services, where the queue for first appointments can be as long as 21 years.

Let's not pretend that these are not structural problems just because Cass says something else. Cass was appointed by the NHS. The post was not advertised, there was no application procedure. The NHS had major failures to cover up. They chose Cass.

Fortunately for me I managed to avoid the NHS for my therapies.

 

[monkers]

As with sports and prisons though, there is no evidence that cannot be dismissed by trans activists because ultimately it's a house of cards that requires everyone to ignore the most obvious of conclusions.

I assure you that I am not trying to find a way to get into UK women's prisons. I'm not trying to get into maternity wards, women's refuges, or cheat in elite sport. All I want to do is play the sports that I do socially with my friends, and use the loo without advertising my private medical history. I have no history of any kind of activism, this is all your invention.

I have not been through a male puberty. I have no male genitals. I have no male beard. I have no criminal record. On the other hand I have breasts (no surgery rqd). I have my own hair. I have a female voice. Somehow though I manage to live rent-free in your head as some dangerous predator whose human rights must be removed.

It's pretty confusing that you manage to say that I don't exist on the one hand, but have all this invented backstory and history on the other.

You just can't stop inventing Aurora all fueled by a mix of paranoia and a vivid imagination.

All I post here is counterpoint to your gender critical ideology. One that is falsely framed and full of invention.

 

[spen666]

.... I tend to look at the evidence, ...

 

[classic33]

Why would they want to keep records.

The horrific life long complications should not be exposed to the public.

There are multiple who have de transitioned, commenting on problems physically that they were never made aware of.

Medically doctors and clinicians know of recorded side effects from taking certain drugs from the drug makers.
Why would the trans community want to publish these, detrimental to their cause

There's side effects to any long term medications given. Often only becoming apparent in later life. To try and pretend it's only one set of people that are going to be affected is plain nuts.

Heart problems, including a slow or irregular heartbeat.
Chest pain
Dizziness
Tiredness
Temporarily lower the number of white blood cells in your blood, increasing the chance of getting an infection
Lower the number of platelets, which are necessary for proper blood clotting.
Decrease the density of bones, resulting in weaker bones
Drowsiness
Trouble in controlling movements
Inability to move the eyes
Trouble with, speaking, or swallowing and breathing
Can cause Diabetes
Liver damage
And, no painkillers to be taken whilst using/taking it.

This is a widely used medication.