CXRAndy
Guru
Kathleen Stock makes a statement taken from the Ministry of justice and mirror data from the USA
View: https://youtu.be/nuR_yuDqOXw?t=883
Gender again. Sorry!
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Kathleen Stock makes a statement taken from the Ministry of justice and mirror data from the USA
View: https://youtu.be/nuR_yuDqOXw?t=883
newfhouse
pleb
I’m old enough to remember being moderated on the old forum for assuming Paley was a part-time court usher. Happy days.
monkers
Legendary Member
Pale Rider
Veteran
Were you? I vaguely remember the fatuous accusation but didn't know anything came of it.
I was moderated more times than I can remember, and banned at least twice, although it may have been three times.
I genuinely cannot remember what any of it was about, which probably tells us none of it amounted to a string of beans.
Not that I'm claiming any record, a poster or two ran up six or seven bans, and there may have been even bigger transgressors for all I know.
By the way, I'm already on the naughty step in the other place - one penalty point, which is active for one year.
Not that I have any idea what the points system is all about.
CXRAndy
Guru
Someone who writes a book and makes a public statement at the Oxford university debate bloody well better be sure of their statistics.
Just because it doesn't suit you, doesn't mean they're wrong
monkers
Legendary Member
Check it for yourself, it's what those of us interested in the truth do.
Bromptonaut
Rohan Man
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I've had issues with @spen666 around his binary approach to discussion both here and back at the Mothership but that's by the by.
Both here and elsewhere I'm generally going out of my way to avoid conflict though I'm not beyond responding in kind if others are making Iffy comments or go for me.
Bromptonaut
Rohan Man
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Funnily enough I went down that road too. Not really a doubter but genuinely surprised that any paper still has somebody full time as a court reporter.
newfhouse
pleb
Merely an idle speculation as I recall.
Pale Rider
Veteran
Often combined with crime, although it wasn't in my case.
However, I did get several crime stories of which we were previously unaware when one of the solicitors would gossip with me about who they had coming down the belt.
The police are far less inclined to tell us what they've been up to than when I first started.
The big shift there was post-Leveson, even though his lordship correctly found the vast majority of reporter/copper interactions were nothing to be worried about.
CXRAndy
Guru
Ministry of Justice 2020 Data
The question of whether transwomen match male or female patterns of criminality is specifically addressed by the 2020 FOI referenced by Fair Play For Women (who have submitted evidence to the Committee). This is first time there has been official data to compare the rate of sex offending in 3 different groups. Men vs women vs transwomen. The hyperlinks below link to the FOI spreadsheet.
MOJ stats show 76 of the 129 male-born prisoners identifying as transgender (not counting any with GRCs) have at least 1 conviction of sexual offence. This includes 36 convictions for rape and 10 for attempted rape. These are clearly male type crimes (rape is defined as penetration with a penis).
monkers
Legendary Member
Are you prepared to answer a batch of questions honestly?
CXRAndy
Guru
Those aren't her data- these are MOJ
These aren't questions, matter of fact, the inmates convicted of sexual crimes will be on record.
monkers
Legendary Member
I never said the data was wrong. I said the use (meaning interpretation) of the data is wrong. It's deliberate, she knows what she is doing here.
So are you prepared to answer questions honestly?
CXRAndy
Guru
58% of trans with at least one sexual conviction. She was correct.
You don't like the fact
