Gender again. Sorry!

[AuroraSaab]

Jeez, we've explained this several times over.

The 'in law' bit refers to the Gender Recognition Act 2004. If one can jump through the required medico-legal and practical hoops then you can have a birth certificate in your acquired gender. The UK was dragged kicking and screaming to pass that legislation because being unable to marry was a breach of people's Human Rights.

But this is not what transactivists want. It's not what Stonewall want. They want all the exemptions of the Equality Act to be removed. That means there are no longer any single sex spaces or services (for either sex) from which the other sex can be lawfully excluded. It's just self ID into those spaces and services, no GRC needed.

You seem to be under the impression that admittance to these spaces and services will be limited to those with a GRC who have somehow 'earned' the right to be in those spaces. That simply would not be the case if 'sex' is overwritten with 'gender' in UK law.

 

[monkers]

But this is not what transactivists want. It's not what Stonewall want. They want all the exemptions of the Equality Act to be removed. That means there are no longer any single sex spaces or services (for either sex) from which the other sex can be lawfully excluded. It's just self ID into those spaces and services, no GRC needed.

You seem to be under the impression that admittance to these spaces and services will be limited to those with a GRC who have somehow 'earned' the right to be in those spaces. That simply would not be the case if 'sex' is overwritten with 'gender' in UK law.

There is no future plan to overwrite sex with gender in UK law. The EqA is not a standalone act, it reflects law made before it's introduction that has not been repealed or modified.

 

[Pale Rider]

There is no future plan to overwrite sex with gender in UK law. The EqA is not a standalone act, it reflects law made before it's introduction that has not been repealed or modified.

Given your unfortunate experience with quoting the law in The Sun thread, this latest mixture of alleged fact and conjecture needs to be treated with extreme caution.

Or put simply, it's likely all cobblers.

 

[monkers]

Given your unfortunate experience with quoting the law in The Sun thread, this latest mixture of alleged fact and conjecture needs to be treated with extreme caution.

Or put simply, it's likely all cobblers.

Whereas just about everything that leaks from your guttersnipe mouth needs to be treated with disdain. I've never quite recovered from you trying to defend your turn of phrase 'kiddyfiddlers' - that's pretty sick.

 

[Pale Rider]

Whereas just about everything that leaks from your guttersnipe mouth needs to be treated with disdain. I've never quite recovered from you trying to defend your turn of phrase 'kiddyfiddlers' - that's pretty sick.

Widely used around newsrooms and the courts.

I'm sorry if it causes the maiden aunts on here to reach for the vapours, but celebrating differences is a lot wider topic than just gender.

Or could it be you only want to accept and celebrate differences of which you approve?

Surely not.

 

[monkers]

One hour ago ...

 

[Deleted member 159]

Just popped back in to post this.

I saw the article the other day but it was behind a paywall.

Trans offenders to be moved to male prisons. If they have full tackle, violent or sex convictions

Pretty much 99.9% of them

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...womens-jails-amid-protect-female-inmates.html

Bye for now 👍

 

[classic33]

But this is not what transactivists want. It's not what Stonewall want. They want all the exemptions of the Equality Act to be removed. That means there are no longer any single sex spaces or services (for either sex) from which the other sex can be lawfully excluded. It's just self ID into those spaces and services, no GRC needed.

You seem to be under the impression that admittance to these spaces and services will be limited to those with a GRC who have somehow 'earned' the right to be in those spaces. That simply would not be the case if 'sex' is overwritten with 'gender' in UK law.

If it became the law you'd have to let it happen though.

 

[multitool]

Given your unfortunate experience with quoting the law in The Sun thread, this latest mixture of alleged fact and conjecture needs to be treated with extreme caution.

Or put simply, it's likely all cobblers.

You've yet to quote the law in The Sun thread. You've been asked, but seem evasive, becoming aggressive when matticus asks you explicitly.

 

[AuroraSaab]

'Jailed male sex offenders are faking being transgender' according to other transwomen prisoners. This is 'You are who you say you are' in action. Who's to say that their gender isn't innate and they're in the wrong body?

https://web.archive.org/web/2023071...ale-sex-offenders-fake-trans-women-prisoners/

 

[monkers]

'Jailed male sex offenders are faking being transgender' according to other transwomen prisoners. This is 'You are who you say you are' in action. Who's to say that their gender isn't innate and they're in the wrong body?

https://web.archive.org/web/2023071...ale-sex-offenders-fake-trans-women-prisoners/

Yes for people who are not prisoners. Then for prisoners I've been saying RISK ASSESSMENT.

Do stop trying to twist my words you halfwit. How many more times?

 

[AuroraSaab]

The article isn't about risk assessment. It's about the notion of there being men who are genuinely transgender and men who are faking it. You tell us there is no diagnosis for being transgender and it's not a mental health issue. Regardless of any risk assessment, who are you to say these prisoners aren't transgender rather than men who are faking it? How can we tell?

Also, have a biscuit and a lie down. We are not at home to Mr. Rude.

 

[Deleted member 159]

If folk on the street can see what's happening with manipulation of the system, then there is a serious lack of authority control.

It's been said many times that male convicts would fake being trans. That's what has happened.

By extension, truly disturbed people will do the same in the wider population. Seen this is a mental condition, getting attention is a win win for these men

 

[multitool]

If folk on the street can see what's happening with manipulation of the system, then there is a serious lack of authority control.

It's been said many times that male convicts would fake being trans. That's what has happened.

By extension, truly disturbed people will do the same in the wider population. Seen this is a mental condition, getting attention is a win win for these men

Good honest man-down-the-pub common sense here

 

[Deleted member 159]

Good honest man-down-the-pub common sense here

We'll all these academics have done such a wonderful job upto press. Tavistock, prison service. Government. Money talks, so many private companies with fingers in the pie.