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winjim

Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
Interesting thread about country music here. Based on a thread by someone who appears to be a NYC native cosplaying as an Appalachian it looks at our human desire to place things in discrete categories or genres, how those things are necessarily artificial constructs and how we mustn't look at complex nuanced subjects merely in terms of our own agenda.


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CXRAndy

Guru
be delighted that women are being proactive in stopping trans women from entering women's spaces...even if it does mean threatening them with violence.

It's about feeling comfortable in a safe place.

If the girls and women do not feel safe.

Then everything is perceived as a threat.

Men just by their locale can make women feel threatened.
 

Rusty Nails

Country Member
It was a bloke, you know he's a bloke, everyone else knows it too.

Reading that Twitter post there is nothing there to indicate that the person was a trans woman, in fact she describes herself as a woman and a mum of 3. I am not on Twitter so cannot dig deeper than that so what makes you think she is a man?
 

multitool

Pharaoh
Reading that Twitter post there is nothing there to indicate that the person was a trans woman, in fact she describes herself as a woman and a mum of 3. I am not on Twitter so cannot dig deeper than that so what makes you think she is a man?

I'm not going to dig deeper, but she says she was accused of being a 'transwoman' because she has short hair from cancer treatment and "dresses masculine". Doesn't sound like a trans woman.

The point is that many non-feminine cis women are being harassed by others around toilets etc because of the hate campaign being whipped up by zealots like Aurora, and opportunist acolytes like Andy.
 

CXRAndy

Guru
You can tell a man from a woman, especially women can. The way they walk, their shape, facial shape, Adam's apple.
 
Aurora will be delighted that women are being proactive in stopping trans women from entering women's spaces...even if it does mean threatening them with violence.
A few years ago you could be sure that anybody in the women's toilets was female, regardless of how they looked. As a result of trans identifying men pushing to use women's single sex spaces and services, that is no longer the case.

I could just as easily say that you are delighted at the transwoman swimmer being able to undress next to girls and women or wander through their changing room when officiating. It's thanks to men like that, and people like you cheering them on, that women are now more questioning of who is in their spaces.

Good to see you more of your new found concern for women though, even if it's only to prop up your determination to get the likes of 'Ann Coombes' into the ladies changing room.

Edit: Andy is still talking about Ann Combes and swimming by the looks of it, not the Twitter poster.
 
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multitool

Pharaoh
A few years ago you could be sure that anybody in the women's toilets was female, regardless of how they looked. As a result of trans identifying men pushing to use women's single sex spaces and services, that is no longer the case.

Could you? How many years is "a few"?

Any evidence for that?
 
Could you? How many years is "a few"? Any evidence for that?

Any evidence that women with short hair are routinely being accosted with violence in women's toilets, apart from the occasional Twitter anecdote? Plenty of evidence that unisex spaces are bad for women. When you encourage men to enter, regardless of how they are dressed or identify, you make women's single sex spaces unisex spaces.
 

CXRAndy

Guru
A few years ago you could be sure that anybody in the women's toilets was female, regardless of how they looked. As a result of trans identifying men pushing to use women's single sex spaces and services, that is no longer the case.

I could just as easily say that you are delighted at the transwoman swimmer being able to undress next to girls and women or wander through their changing room when officiating. It's thanks to men like that, and people like you cheering them on, that women are now more questioning of who is in their spaces.

Good to see you more of your new found concern for women though, even if it's only to prop up your determination to get the likes of 'Ann Coombes' into the ladies changing room.

Edit: Andy is still talking about Ann Combes and swimming by the looks of it, not the Twitter poster.
Yes
 
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