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I don't think the UK keeps public data on how many prison officers assault prisoners. It would be very unusual if the universal trend that men are generally more violent that women wasn't replicated amongst the prison officer population though. It would require prison officers to be completely different from the rest of the public. We know that's not the case with male police officers so it's unlikely male prison officers would be any different.
 
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I don't think the UK keeps public data on how many prison officers assault prisoners. It would be very unusual if the universal trend that men are generally more violent that women wasn't replicated amongst the prison officer population though. It would require prison officers to be completely different from the rest of the public. We know that's not the case with male police officers so it's unlikely male prison officers would be any different.

We've sorted of glossed over this before recently here. It's pointless because whatever official statistics people can be arsed to go dig up on the subject, we then go into the realms of making stuff up such as prisoners might not be reporting assaults due to fear and pride or whatever. Waste of time really.
 

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We've sorted of glossed over this before recently here. It's pointless because whatever official statistics people can be arsed to go dig up on the subject, we then go into the realms of making stuff up such as prisoners might not be reporting assaults due to fear and pride or whatever. Waste of time really.

Counterfactuals?

Yes...but then the whole premise of the anti-trans movement is based on them.
 
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.but then the whole premise of the anti-trans movement is based on them.

Some anti trans facts

You cant change sex
You're born with your sex decided
Most trans are suffering multiple comorbidity issues
Body dysphoria is a mental condition
 

multitool

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Some anti trans facts

Oh dear.

You cant change sex

You still dont understand the distinction between biological sex and gender, do you.

You haven't noticed that it's called transGENDER, and not transSEXUAL

You're born with your sex decided

Irrelevant.

Body dysphoria is a mental condition
Yeah, well, wonderbrain, I don't think anyone is suggesting body dysphoria occurs in your feet :laugh:
 
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We've sorted of glossed over this before recently here. It's pointless because whatever official statistics people can be arsed to go dig up on the subject, we then go into the realms of making stuff up such as prisoners might not be reporting assaults due to fear and pride or whatever. Waste of time really.

True, though the difference between male and female violent offending in the stats that we do have is so consistently large, across decades and countries, that the 'Women are just as bad argument' is ridiculous. As is the 'Some groups of men are different' argument.
 
True, though the difference between male and female violent offending in the stats that we do have is so consistently large, across decades and countries, that the 'Women are just as bad argument' is ridiculous. As is the 'Some groups of men are different' argument.
However females have a higher average of reoffences per reoffender.
 

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You still dont understand the distinction between biological sex and gender, do you.

You haven't noticed that it's called transGENDER, and not transSEXUAL
There's plenty of slippage between the two terms on both sides of the debate.
The obvious one being changing sex on a birth certificate.

Ok you'll say that's legal sex not biological.
But room for confusion. And that's before we do the sex as binary debate.
 

monkers

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Some anti trans facts

You cant change sex
You can not change your reproductive sex. You can change your legal sex. It is your legal sex that is protected as a human right.

You're born with your sex decided

Really? Who decided it? I thought designer babies were frowned upon?
Most trans are suffering multiple comorbidity issues

But then there are so many people with comorbid condition who are not trans, so where is the point? Are you saying that anyone with any comorbid conditions should not be left to live their best life, or only trans people should be stopped?
Body dysphoria is a mental condition

So you will say - but thankfully nobody takes you seriously, so there is no consequence.
 
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So you will say - but thankfully nobody takes you seriously, so there is no consequence.

Thankfully the authorities are taking it seriously, banning trans from sports, the child abuse and soon all female safe spaces
 
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EHRC urgently reviews employer guidance on single-sex jobs
Equalities watchdog alerted that women’s refuges are ‘routinely’ and ‘unlawfully’ advertising positions to male-born applicants

Women with penis will soon be banned from women's rape refuge and safe houses
 

multitool

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Andy is the last to realise that the Telegraph is an unreliable source :laugh:

Poor Andy

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