Gender again. Sorry!

[monkers]

Who's stopping them speaking? They've got a huge article in The Guardian that gives them the floor with no dissenting comments from the women who are glad of the ruling.

As far as I know, the WI have never consulted their own members about whether they wished to allow men to be members, they railroaded it through without asking the women. So they didn't exactly 'let women speak'.

It only takes a few activists to change the direction of an organisation.

The inverted argument appears again, but this example is the perfect example of a self-defeating argument. And there are the unsubstantiated claims.

What matters is what is being said in this moment ... that WI branches are closing through collapsing membership since the trans ban. This is women voting with their feet. You just need to listen.

The argument that the WI took a few activists in the organisation is for the birds. I already pointed out the obvious. Why would trans activists get themselves to the top of the organisation and use that influence to ban trans people?

This is system collapse for your set of arguments.

 

[mickle]

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Quiten down - I'm speaking with your owner.

Spoken like a true gentleman.

 

[AuroraSaab]

They didn't have any choice after the sc ruling. The influence of activists, however strong, doesn't allow them to flout the law, especially if that opened the organisation to possible legal action. The WI have rightly acted to be compliant with the law.

They're acting to provide groups that will allow men to join (I'll be interested in how many women join those if there's a man free group available). Those women in the article could consult their local members and convert to being one of these groups.

The WI have used Gendered Intelligence for staff training, who promote the 'Stonewall law' interpretation of the Equality Act that claims men can access women's spaces, and at one point had a trans identifying male on the membership committee. At no point have they asked national members what they think.

 

[CXRAndy]

WI branches are closing through collapsing membership since the trans ban

Wow, there must have been more TiM in the WI.

 

[monkers]

They didn't have any choice after the sc ruling. The influence of activists, however strong, doesn't allow them to flout the law, especially if that opened the organisation to possible legal action. The WI have rightly acted to be compliant with the law.

They're acting to provide groups that will allow men to join (I'll be interested in how many women join those if there's a man free group available). Those women in the article could consult their local members and convert to being one of these groups.

The WI have used Gendered Intelligence for staff training, who promote the 'Stonewall law' interpretation of the Equality Act that claims men can access women's spaces, and at one point had a trans identifying male on the membership committee. At no point have they asked national members what they think.

What you are now freely saying is that gender critical activism has resulted in is the loss of freedom of association for WI people with people they wish to.

You are saying this because your belief is that the SC made that ruling.

You are defending this with invention. There is not and never has been ''Stonewall Law''.

There were statutory guidelines that had been in place since 2010 which precedes any interest by Stonewall.

WI women are clearly most unhappy with your 'achievement' of choosing their friendship groups for them.

There is interference with their fundamental rights.

UNDHR Article 20:

• Voluntary Participation: The right includes both the freedom to join an association and the freedom to leave one.
• No Compulsion: Individuals cannot be forced to join any association.
• Scope: This covers, but is not limited to, trade unions, political parties, and other organizations formed for common interests.
• Purpose: It is an enabling right, essential for allowing individuals to defend their interests and participate in social, economic, and political life.

ECHR Article 11:

• Core Rights: Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association, covering both organizing and joining groups.

 

[monkers]

I'm not seeing responses from those I ignore, but I well imagine that the drones have hurty feelings and are circling to protect their Queen.