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Shortfall

Active Member
I made the mistake of reading the thread without realisation that I was no longer logged in. That is the difficulty with the system. If one takes the option of ignoring a person's opinion, the abuser then goes on to abuse that situation in making unfounded comments. If they had any honour or good faith intent, they would stop replying to the person or posting about the person in the knowledge they are not affording them opportunity to reply. However these characteristics of honour and good faith are not ones can easily associate with Spen.

I don't think the person who is blocked has any obligation to care about the feelings or right of reply of someone who has blocked them. Or am I missing the point?
 

spen666

Über Member
I'm losing track here. Wasn't Spen blocked a few pages back?

Why are you surprised that Monker isn't telling the whole truth.
They have a reputation for doing it and are repeatedly called out by various people (not just me)

They post outrage if someone asks them for the evidence to support something they claim exists. They post "evidence" in such a way that its not possible to check it - either not posting a link to what they post or posting a response without saying what its a response to.
The tirade of insults and abuse because someone dares to question their word salad posts is interesting, yet they claim to be the victim when the reality is they are the abuser not the victim...



Typing into Google search engine the question

Does a narcissist typically make themselves out to be a victim?

Produces an interesting response
Yes, narcissists very frequently portray themselves as victims. This behavior, often called a victim mentality, is a core manipulation tactic used to gain sympathy, deflect blame, and maintain a sense of moral superiority.
While both overt and covert narcissists use this tactic, it is the defining characteristic of covert (vulnerable) narcissism.

Why Narcissists Play the Victim
  • Avoiding Accountability: By casting themselves as the injured party, they shift responsibility for their own harmful actions onto others.
  • Gaining "Supply": Victimhood acts as a magnet for attention, pity, and validation (narcissistic supply) from empathetic people who want to "rescue" them.
  • Controlling the Narrative: It allows them to paint others as aggressors, effectively silencing those who try to hold them accountable.
  • Justifying Abuse: If they believe they are being mistreated, they feel "entitled" to lash out or punish others as a form of perceived self-defence.

Common Victimhood Tactics
  • "Woe Is Me" Stories: Sharing one-sided, vague stories of past mistreatment by "crazy" ex-partners or ungrateful family members to elicit immediate sympathy.
  • Weaponizing Trauma: Bringing up past hardships specifically when they are being confronted about current bad behavior to shut down the conversation.
  • Reactive Abuse: Intentionally goading someone into an angry outburst, then using that reaction as "proof" that they are the one being abused.
  • The "Unappreciated Hero": Claiming that despite their "limitless" sacrifices, no one truly understands or appreciates them.

Do They Believe Their Own Narrative?
Psychologists note that many narcissists actually believe they are victims. Because they lack empathy and have a fragile ego, any boundary or criticism is perceived as a personal attack. Their "alloplastic" defence mechanism causes them to automatically project their own faults onto others to protect their internal sense of being "perfect".
If you are dealing with someone who consistently plays the victim to avoid responsibility, you might find the Grey Rock Method or Setting Firm Boundaries helpful in protecting your own mental well-being.

I am sure people can draw their own conclusions and some may think this reflects someone whilst others may think differently. Each to their own
 

monkers

Shaman
I don't think the person who is blocked has any obligation to care about the feelings or right of reply of someone who has blocked them. Or am I missing the point?

I didn't talk about 'obligation', I talked about 'character'.

Audi alteram partem.

Lord Esher M.R. has defined natural justice as "the natural sense of what is wrong and what is right. He also defined it as fundamental justice".

Lord Parker defined it as "the duty to act fairly".
 
Why are you surprised that Monker isn't telling the whole truth.
They have a reputation for doing it and are repeatedly called out by various people (not just me)

They post outrage if someone asks them for the evidence to support something they claim exists. They post "evidence" in such a way that its not possible to check it - either not posting a link to what they post or posting a response without saying what its a response to.
The tirade of insults and abuse because someone dares to question their word salad posts is interesting, yet they claim to be the victim when the reality is they are the abuser not the victim...



Typing into Google search engine the question



Produces an interesting response




I am sure people can draw their own conclusions and some may think this reflects someone whilst others may think differently. Each to their own

Give it a rest Spen, you're just making yourself look a chump.
 

spen666

Über Member
I didn't talk about 'obligation', I talked about 'character'.

Audi alteram partem.

Lord Esher M.R. has defined natural justice as "the natural sense of what is wrong and what is right. He also defined it as fundamental justice".


Another misleading and unreferenced answer anyone can quote out of context something - it doesn't make it accurate or relevant

Lord Parker defined it as "the duty to act fairly".


Its very easy to quote the first 2 pieces in an article written by someone else and pass it off as judical answers - they may be, but the context of those quotes is not given, so once again its making it impossible for anyone to agree or disagree.

The quotes are lifted from an article by 2 Indian Lawyers and appear to have no direct reference to Gender issues
https://articles.manupatra.com/arti...-Causa-Sua-The-Two-Pillars-of-Natural-Justice
 

monkers

Shaman
Another misleading and unreferenced answer anyone can quote out of context something - it doesn't make it accurate or relevant




Its very easy to quote the first 2 pieces in an article written by someone else and pass it off as judical answers - they may be, but the context of those quotes is not given, so once again its making it impossible for anyone to agree or disagree.

The quotes are lifted from an article by 2 Indian Lawyers and appear to have no direct reference to Gender issues
https://articles.manupatra.com/arti...-Causa-Sua-The-Two-Pillars-of-Natural-Justice
 

Shortfall

Active Member
I didn't talk about 'obligation', I talked about 'character'.

Audi alteram partem.

Lord Esher M.R. has defined natural justice as "the natural sense of what is wrong and what is right. He also defined it as fundamental justice".

Lord Parker defined it as "the duty to act fairly".

We don't have any duty to you or anyone else here. Good luck enforcing whatever it is you think you're owed, especially from those people you've blocked (or not as the case may be).
 
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