Gender poll - new and improved

[Rusty Nails]

Seriously? Mesopotamian gods? Ancient texts also describe angels, daemons, and various gods/humans who can turn into animals.

This is historical revisionism of ancient practises to suit a particular viewpoint. We have no idea if males priests wearing feminine garb in 3000BCE was anything more significant than a sign of devotion to a female goddess.




Funny that it's almost exclusively men who are these third genders, like Fa'afafine in Samoa and Hijrah in India. It's because a third gender is a way of a patriarchal society dealing with effeminate men; a handy way to kick them out of manhood.



Pretty insulting to tell the native Americans, the South American Indians, or Africans they didn't know that sex was binary until white folks showed up. They seemed to manage to reproduce and breed livestock pretty successfully before Europeans insisted there were only 2 sexes.

This is all revisionist nonsense.

I am sure there are academics who know a lot more about historical practices than you...and certainly more than me. I put that post out in response to Mickle's post to AndyRM, and personally CBA whether you disagree or not.

You are of course entitled to your opinion and to ignore or agree with any information that doesn't suit that opinion.

 

[AuroraSaab]

To add to Rusty Nails post,
Albert Cashier, a figure from the 19th century, was more secretive. He served bravely in over 40 battles as a Union Army soldier in the U.S. Civil War—one of at least 250 people who, though assigned a female sex at birth, fought in the war as men.

Transing dead people ffs. We have no idea if such women as Cashier, or eg James Barry, considered themselves to be really men or if they adopted male personas in order to have greater freedom, independence, and careers that weren't open to women like soldier and doctor.

 

[AuroraSaab]

It might be, it might contain a kernel of truth.
Is anyone deny that there are is a group of men who believe they are women?

Some certainly believe it. People believe all sorts of things about themselves that aren't true.

 

[AndyRM]

Since we're on this weird freewheel I absolutely agree.

Jesus believed he was the son of god after all.

F*cking hell though, some of the reactions to a perfectly reasonable question and response on this thread are wild.

 

[CXRAndy]

Battle of the sexes tennis match

World no1 woman, beaten by male ranked 673 . She had a larger court and only first serve counted. Still lost to a male playing softly as not to embarrass her too much.

 

[AndyRM]

Sabalenka playing at 100% wipes the floor with Kyrgios any day of the week, and wouldn't need stupid modifications to do it.

She barely got out of first gear.

A total sham, which as I figured it would tells us absolutely nothing but will be predictably latched on to as a way of attempting to prove something.

 

[CXRAndy]

Sabalenka playing at 100% wipes the floor with Kyrgios any day of the week, and wouldn't need stupid modifications to do it.

She barely got out of first gear.

A total sham, which as I figured it would tells us absolutely nothing but will be predictably latched on to as a way of attempting to prove something.

Yet she lost 6-3 6-3

Serena Williams said she would never play a top ranked male because she would lose 6 love, 6 love.

 

[mickle]

Since we're on this weird freewheel I absolutely agree.

Jesus believed he was the son of god after all.

F*cking hell though, some of the reactions to a perfectly reasonable question and response on this thread are wild.

No he didn't.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

No he didn't.

It is pantomime season after all

 

[CXRAndy]

might contain a kernel of truth.

The kernel is a grain of sand in the sea of the Sahara desert 🏜

 

[AuroraSaab]

Sabalenka playing at 100% wipes the floor with Kyrgios any day of the week, and wouldn't need stupid modifications to do it.

So she let him win? Why?
His serve speed is 10mph more than hers, he's 6ft 4, she's 6ft, male upper body strength is 40 - 60% higher, her side of the court was smaller. Even at less than 100% from him he is likely to win due to male speed and power advantage.

I agree it was more of an exhibition match but the reviews I've read haven't suggested she could have won if she'd put more effort in. If anything they suggest Kyrgios was holding back.

 

[AndyRM]

So she let him win? Why?
His serve speed is 10mph more than hers, he's 6ft 4, she's 6ft, male upper body strength is 40 - 60% higher, her side of the court was smaller. Even at less than 100% from him he is likely to win due to male speed and power advantage.

I agree it was more of an exhibition match but the reviews I've read haven't suggested she could have won if she'd put more effort in. If anything they suggest Kyrgios was holding back.

I've actually watched it, and I maintain that Sabalenka actually going for it beats Kyrgios, probably not in straight sets, but she would. They were both holding back and the whole thing was a joke.

Calling it a "Battle of the Sexes" is basically an insult to Billy Jean King.

 

[CXRAndy]

He's also ranked 673 in the male category- basically, he is past his best by a long way.

There are reports of his return to the professional game next year.

Don't expect to see him come anywhere

 

[AndyRM]

... Tell me you don't understand how tennis rankings work without telling me you don't understand how tennis rankings work.

 

[CXRAndy]

I've actually watched it, and I maintain that Sabalenka actually going for it beats Kyrgios, probably not in straight sets, but she would. They were both holding back and the whole thing was a joke.

Calling it a "Battle of the Sexes" is basically an insult to Billy Jean King.

You are living in cuckoo land. She lost easily. He's an injured, comeback attempt lowly ranked player.

This game clearly shows the physical superiority of the men over women