General Election 2024....

[Ian H]

Government debt is currently 98% of GDP.

Tell me about this rosy future you hoped for...

I'm merely hoping for economic literacy and a commitment to reducing inequality. Rosiness might have to wait.

 

[multitool]

I'm merely hoping for economic literacy and a commitment to reducing inequality. Rosiness might have to wait.

So not very far from my hopes then. There are all sorts of inequalities though, aren't there, educational, health etc etc, and the levers one might pull to lessen them are not consequence free.

The inequality gap really took off under Blair, and yet Blair's policies were markedly aimed at reducing it.

 

[Ian H]

So not very far from my hopes then. There are all sorts of inequalities though, aren't there, educational, health etc etc, and the levers one might pull to lessen them are not consequence free.

The inequality gap really took off under Blair, and yet Blair's policies were markedly aimed at reducing it.

Hopes are not expectations. Blair initially reduced inequality, but his fiscal policies ultimately favoured free markets.

 

[Rusty Nails]

It's going to be prettier than 5 more years of Tory.

It's almost as if you've totally failed to notice that Labour have effectively neutralised any possibility of Tory attack. It didn't just happen, and no, they haven't achieved it by becoming indistinguishable from the Tories because the Tories are being roundly attacked.

How exactly, other than covering up and not offering a target to hit, have they neutralised the attack. If this is the old rope-a-dope technique it usually requires a counter-attack to finish it off (the Manifesto?) rather than just letting the opponent collapse, exhausted, but luckily for Starmer this might just happen.

 

[multitool]

How exactly, other than covering up and not offering a target to hit, have they neutralised the attack.

What other ways are there?

They've tried Rayner's house. They'll try to capitalise on Abbott, but of course that leaves them open to a reminder of the Tory donor who wanted her killed.

 

[Rusty Nails]

What other ways are there?

They've tried Rayner's house. They'll try to capitalise on Abbott, but of course that leaves them open to a reminder of the Tory donor who wanted her killed.

I u derstand fully what Starmer has been doing, and I believe it will work, but at that stage, as PM, he will have to stop covering up, and only then will we see if it was all worth it.

 

[albion]

Just his wooden nature

 

[Bazzer]

Another defection from the Conservatives.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd11kvk1je4o
Seems to me to be a really weird time to defect, other than a last ditch attempt to save his salary and expenses.

 

[multitool]

He won't be saving his salary and expenses.

 

[Beebo]

He seems to want to stand as a labour candidate in a different constituency

 

[multitool]

 

[AuroraSaab]

F Shaheen being replaced by a Labour councillor from Chingford. At least it's not some entirely random parachutee. Paul Mason just can't catch a break can he?


View: https://x.com/LondonLabour/status/1796277665525039306

 

[cookiemonster]

Labour are a shoe-in to win an election with a Blair level majority. So, what do they decide to do?

Talk about education, health, infrastructure, transport? Nope.

Labour have decided to go on a Communist Party style purge of anyone deemed a little left wing and not a member of Herr Starmer's Politburo. The disgraceful thing is that this purge seems to be mainly targeting women of colour.


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpGiPe3Qb44&t=887s



View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khrTxQLMZxA&t=644s



View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_mrQreN1Us

The question is why are Labour trying to out Tory the Tories?

 

[Badger_Boom]

The question is why are Labour trying to out Tory the Tories?

Because they think that the only way to be electable is to prove that they're not (whisper it) socialists? The term has been bandied about by the political right in a way intended to terrify people into believing that Labour wants to turn the UK into a version of the 70s USSR.

That and in the 21st century the individual is way more important than society as a whole so nobody wants to give any of theirs to help their fellow human.

 

[cookiemonster]

Because they think that the only way to be electable is to prove that they're not (whisper it) socialists? The term has been bandied about by the political right in a way intended to terrify people into believing that Labour wants to turn the UK into a version of the 70s USSR.

That and in the 21st century the individual is way more important than society as a whole so nobody wants to give any of theirs to help their fellow human.

I agree wholly with that rather sad statement.