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AuroraSaab

Squire
theclaud said:
Sounds like bollocks to me.
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It was in The Guardian article I linked so take it up with them. In fact, if you Google it lots of news outlets say the same. You obviously know more about what's going on behind the scenes in terms of hostage negotiations than reporters so yeah I guess it must be bollocks.
 
albion

albion

Guru
Israel always insisted on total capitulation meaning there was never any sign of a deal, apart from the 'hopeful' words from impotent woukd be negotiators.

The bottom line was 'release all the hostages first and hope for a permanent agreement'.
Thus no deal ever.
 
C R

C R

Über Member
albion said:
Israel always insisted on total capitulation meaning there was never any sign of a deal, apart from the 'hopeful' words from impotent woukd be negotiators.

The bottom line was 'release all the hostages first and hope for a permanent agreement'.
Thus no deal ever.
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Indeed, history shows that Israel, like the US, never negotiate in good faith.
 
Rusty Nails

Rusty Nails

Country Member
From the BBC news site tonight:

"Hamas continues to demand complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, an end to hostilities, the transfer of humanitarian aid, and the reconstruction of the war-torn territory as conditions for accepting a ceasefire and releasing hostages."

Irrespective of the wrongs of the way Israel has treated Palestinians and stolen their territory over the years, I cannot help but feel that Hamas are deluded in trying to demand any of the above, from their position of weakness, other than possibly the humanitarian aid with pressure from Israel's "allies". Israel is so far down its destructive route that nothing will stop it now other than the return of hostages and complete capitulation of Hamas or, God forbid, a larger, and even more destructive, conflict involving Iran and possibly other nations in the Middle East...which is probably what Hamas has hoped all along.
 
winjim

winjim

Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
Just peeked in on this thread after leaving it for many months and Jesus Christ it's ruined my Sunday. Honestly if a stupid little bumfark internet forum is still going round in circles after a year how on Earth do you expect a US backed Israel to ever come to its senses?

Free Palestine 🇵🇸
 
Rusty Nails

Rusty Nails

Country Member
theclaud said:
Ain't nobody got that much time.
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Was it the 'irrespective' that upset you, which was the perfectly correct word for the argument, or the fact I didn't referr to Israel as those murderous genocidal b*stards. I must remember to put a level 11 on my outrage level controls.

winjim said:
Just peeked in on this thread after leaving it for many months and Jesus Christ it's ruined my Sunday. Honestly if a stupid little bumfark internet forum is still going round in circles after a year how on Earth do you expect a US backed Israel to ever come to its senses?

Free Palestine 🇵🇸
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I do not expect a US backed Israel to ever come to its senses. It has come so far along this self-created, self-perpetuating cycle of violence that it will not stop while it continues to exist...and it will continue to exist.
 
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