CXRAndy
Epic Member
More tunnels, more weapons destroyed
Just keep going
View: https://x.com/i/status/2048747993806069814
Just keep going
View: https://x.com/i/status/2048747993806069814
Israel / Palestine
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Pblakeney
Squire
My take had an addition of those who are not anti-Jewish. Those who originally had hatred are unlikely to change their views, especially so today. The increase in hatred which is reasonable given what is happening is the story. Those reasons need to be removed.
Pinno718
Legendary Member
Has this been posted before?
Andy Ogles
In February 2024, U.S. Representative Andy Ogles (R-TN) was filmed telling pro-Palestinian activists, "I think we should kill 'em all," in reference to the conflict in Gaza
Andy Ogles
In February 2024, U.S. Representative Andy Ogles (R-TN) was filmed telling pro-Palestinian activists, "I think we should kill 'em all," in reference to the conflict in Gaza
Ian H
Shaman
From Haaretz -
West Bank IDF Chief Admits Unequal Rules for Shooting Palestinians and Jews, Citing 'Societal Consequences'
IDF general Avi Bluth says troops avoid shooting Jewish stone-throwers while enforcing looser rules for shooting Palestinians. 'The Arabs understand that if someone comes to kill you, kill them first is the norm,' he added. 'So we're killing like we haven't since 1967'
Pblakeney
Squire
#notjustNetanyahu
i'm pretty sure that you can cherry pick horrendous things for the other side too and then hashtag #notjusthamas but that would mean a balanced discussion, might even included having to admit Palestinians are not all angels either.
Ian H
Shaman
Perhaps they're just annoyed at having their lands expropriated, their homes destroyed and their kith & kin killed.
But so are the Jews, remember the Ottoman goverment allowed them in and the existing population went all Ukip/nazi whatever you call it on them. Because they presumably didn't agree with Jews buying land(and back then it was only buying land, the whole zionist/idf/state of Isreal movement came later. as a result of constants attacks)
It did changed a lot of things because historically in different ways(by paying non-muslims tax is some countries for example) Jews have always lives in peace in the Middle east. Until it all changed when Isreal came about.
So the picture is a lot more complicated then you and others like to paint it, what is it with they constant wrong narrative? I mean was wrong with just recognizing they are both unfriendly to say it very diplomatic?
Ian H
Shaman
There isn't an equivalence.
C R
Legendary Member
We've been through this. The Ottoman empire was an occupying power, it wasn't the Ottoman's land to give any more than it was the British land to give.
We're not you earlier claimed it was too long ago and thing like that, also "occupying power" was never an argument especially not in those days, If you would read a little bit more into the history you would find that it has been under Muslim, Druze, Jewish, Christian etc. rule for different time periods, it's not like great Brittian, the Netherlands, Ireland etc. that you can say "that population has a certain claim to that area" many have that claim.
the more interesting part is that in the past under some rulers it did mix well with christians, muslim and others. Sadly it isn't really the case anymore but to pin it all down on "zionism" "jews" etc. is in my view way to simplistic. Jews started buying land (note the buying part poeple where not made homeless they put their house or land up for sale or accepted an offer on it. And some groups in Palestine started attacking them because the opposed that idea. Also note in other area's of the middle east the same thing happened, but the jews where not attacked for being jews.
Pross
Veteran
US not exactly looking great either
Pinno718
Legendary Member
Below Syria and Iraq. lol