Jubilee - celebrate, ignore or bemoan?

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Oi..!!


No selective quoting, thank you Mr @newfhouse ..

(However apposite😊)

Now if you'd kindly remind me again to get on with my holiday, and desist from chatting with 'you lot'

😇😇😊😇😊

Quite right. Be off with you, and don't burn in that sun :sun:
 
Tbh I'm not sure I've got the interest enough to speculate as to which of those it is, or something else...

But maybe yes wilful ignorance.

Saves having to do any exhausting thunking, or any adjustment of view ..

How's the Jubbly being recieved in the OH's? Much flaggery? Signs of partying being prepared?
 

mudsticks

Squire
Quite right. Be off with you, and don't burn in that sun :sun:

Aye aye skipper..

Actually got a bit of a red nose on this day..

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Dissent, and anti monarchy sentiment, is as old and as 'British' as the monarchy itself.

If you don't understand that , you don't understand much, nor do you know your history.
It makes for a simplistic, inaccurate world view.

Like you say it's black and white thinking, which actually serves no one very well.

Unless you particularly like ignorant narrow mindedness.

I was around for the 77 jubilee, there was no 'unquestioning' acceptance nor idealising of the institution of monarchy then, any more than now.


Fwiw myself, and all my forebears are English as far back as anyone knows .

Unquestioning acceptance of hereditary privilege, and power is not a requirement of Britishness, nor Englishness for that matter


Unquestioning acceptance of what your country does, right or wrong is not patriotism, it's nationalism, which can easily slide into populism and even facism .

Not being able or allowed to intelligently critique your government, or your countries institutions leads to authoritarianism..

You know, like in China, Russia, and other bastions of freedom, and free speech..

Sorry forgot you won't read this..

I ignore no-one as nothing anyone can say on the internet can possibly offend me, as I'm sur you are aware.

You make some very valid points but I can't help thinking most on here are anti British/English etc due to the Government that is currently in power.

I always thought you were in your mid forties so you must have been a very advanced child to remember the '77 Jubilee and people's reactions to it.

I always sensed there was something a bit 'spesh' about you.
 

mudsticks

Squire
I ignore no-one as nothing anyone can say on the internet can possibly offend me, as I'm sur you are aware.

You make some very valid points but I can't help thinking most on here are anti British/English etc due to the Government that is currently in power.

I always thought you were in your mid forties so you must have been a very advanced child to remember the '77 Jubilee and people's reactions to it.

I always sensed there was something a bit 'spesh' about you.

Nothing particularly special about me.

Just a reasonably intelligent child of educated, and politically engaged parents.

Politics, national issues, and world affairs were discussed quite freely in our house, and community, there were quality newspapers to read, lots of contact with all sorts of people, from all sorts of backgrounds.

What you might call a well rounded upbringing.

Plenty more like me, about the place .

No one on here has claimed to be anti English, or anti British, thats your invention.

Many, if not most on here, are anti what the current government are doing, with good reason.

Only some kind of craven idiot would approve..

But many will have been anti monarchy, pro a more egalitarian, and fairer, more compassionate society, from long before this particular shower, surfed in on a surge of brexit populism..

Cheered on, of course, by the hard of thinking..
 

glasgowcyclist

Ãœber Member
No one on here has claimed to be anti English, or anti British, thats your invention.

Many, if not most on here, are anti what the current government are doing,

This is a favoured tactic by Tories; suggest that being against government policies is somehow ‘unpatriotic’ or anti-British etc. and thereby drive a wedge between people. It was division that was exploited to force Brexit through and it’s division that being used to keep Johnson and his thieving, lying cronies in power.

Unfortunately it’s something a lot of Tory sympathisers fall for (or knowingly support).
 

mudsticks

Squire
I'm sure I had a Stuff the Jubilee badge in 1977.

I remember being given a 50p of some sort at school.

My suburban primary was fairly progressive, but I can't claim we were all singing the alternative version of GS t Q as our skipping song 😇
 
I can't help thinking most on here are anti British/English etc due to the Government that is currently in power.

Speaking for myself (we're individuals, not "Shep" and "everyone else") I am very much a critic of many current and historical government policies. Does that make me anti British? Only to the wilfully ignorant.
 
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