Jubilee - celebrate, ignore or bemoan?

[Xipe Totec]

You had how many years to relocate before Brexit kicked in, 6 maybe?

I'm sure plenty of people did, and some of them will even have managed to obtain citizenship in the country of their choice and stay there. Others not so much.

For those with future, post-retirement plans, those plans are now wrecked. For me it was really little more than a nice idea, retirement being still some way in the future, however a friend of mine bought a modest & rather dilapidated property in Spain, & had spent the last 10 or so summers renovating the place with a view to relocating once he finished working. As far as I know that's over - all the time & money he spent wasted & his retirement ruined.

It's also worth reminding the likes of you that Brexit was an advisory referendum won by a 2% margin. Even the likes of your heroes such as Farage and Rees-Mogg espoused the idea of a subsequent vote on what Brexit would actually look like, and probably most rational people on both sides assumed that a 'soft' Brexit, reflecting the way people actually voted, would be the outcome.

I also believe you lot up there had an opportunity to distance yourselves from us English as well, looks like you dropped a bollock on both fronts.

You're right about that. Like 55% of Scottish voters I was on the wrong side of history. There were a few reasons why I voted 'no', but the main, overriding one was the reassurance that an independent Scotland would be automatically & immediately dragged out of the EU and would not, under any circumstances, be considered for future membership. We were told that in no uncertain terms by Labour & Tory Westminster MPs, snuggling up together and lying as if with one single voice.

And if it has ever occured to your walnut of a brain to wonder why Labour are now so destroyed, despised and reviled in Scotland - that might give you a clue.

 

[mudsticks]

Have we had this one yet??

Fwiw I can farm, garden, mechanic, measure, weigh out produce, order inputs, build, sew , cook, travel, and lots of other things in both metric and imperial.

Some ways are useful for some things..
For instance my shod foot is an exact 12".

But dividing by ten is much easier than twelve ..

However the fact that 12 has factors of 2,3,4 and 6 is useful now and then.

My German farm help finds it hilarious when I try to explain Imperial measures to her..

So do I in fact 😊

Usual Tory deadcat techniques...

Do the people who are clearly expected to be sucked in by all this c@rp never feel their intelligence insulted even one 16th of an inch..??

No need to answer that one.

 

[mudsticks]

I'm sure plenty of people did, and some of them will even have managed to obtain citizenship in the country of their choice and stay there. Others not so much.

For those with future, post-retirement plans, those plans are now wrecked. For me it was really little more than a nice idea, retirement being still some way in the future, however a friend of mine bought a modest & rather dilapidated property in Spain, & had spent the last 10 or so summers renovating the place with a view to relocating once he finished working. As far as I know that's over - all the time & money he spent wasted & his retirement ruined.

It's also worth reminding the likes of you that Brexit was an advisory referendum won by a 2% margin. Even the likes of your heroes such as Farage and Rees-Mogg espoused the idea of a subsequent vote on what Brexit would actually look like, and probably most rational people on both sides assumed that a 'soft' Brexit, reflecting the way people actually voted, would be the outcome.


You're right about that. Like 55% of Scottish voters I was on the wrong side of history. There were a few reasons why I voted 'no', but the main, overriding one was the reassurance that an independent Scotland would be automatically & immediately dragged out of the EU and would not, under any circumstances, be considered for future membership. We were told that in no uncertain terms by Labour & Tory Westminster MPs, snuggling up together and lying as if with one single voice.

And if it has ever occured to your walnut of a brain to wonder why Labour are now so destroyed, despised and reviled in Scotland - that might give you a clue.

You were lied to, it's an injustice that won't be forgotten in a long while..

And even if I wanted to, it's no mean feat to relocate a farm, two businesses a community, and a relationship to elsewhere.

Some of us also feel some kind of duty, loyalty* even to our place of origin, and don't wish to see it dragged down into the mire by a bunch of Tory w@nkers..

*Sentimental, I know, but that's just me I guess

Shame our kids won't get the same opportunities to live, travel, work, and learn in the EU, like we had..

Nor we to have extended stays there, once we retire..

But hey.. Blue passports eh

 

[newfhouse]

But dividing by ten is much easier than twelve ..

However the fact that 12 has factors of 2,3,4 and 6 is useful now and then.

One advantage of using both systems is that it can be a good way to introduce different number bases to children. Powers of ten are sensible and easy but it doesn’t hurt to throw other systems into the mix. I wonder if people of my age and maybe a little older have retained a residual advantage in mental arithmetic. Could the same be said of Roman numerals?

 

[Mr Celine]

I feel sure that if we make our anti-monarchists aware of the true joys of this celebration, they will come round eventually.
So post your jubbly delights! I'll start:
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An ancient, crumbling ruin of no use to modern society and so old no one can remember its original purpose....

...and Stonehenge.

 

[Deleted member 28]

But you’re fed up with it. So fed up that you post about your fed upness on a politics board. Makes perfect sense.

I've said many times the reason I post is to provide an alternative opinion to what your little echo chamber usually hears, apparently some like a different view of things?

 

[Deleted member 28]

Stalker alert!

I remember post war rationing, it was awful. 😉

 

[mudsticks]

One advantage of using both systems is that it can be a good way to introduce different number bases to children. Powers of ten are sensible and easy but it doesn’t hurt to throw other systems into the mix. I wonder if people of my age and maybe a little older have retained a residual advantage in mental arithmetic. Could the same be said of Roman numerals?

I think it would be hard to measure an advantage of having grown up using both.
But I can imagine having a few different systems to learn is probs good brain training.

The 'trouble' is that we all carry a calculator with us most of the day, from a fairly young age.

I think I might be better at estimating quantities needed for an area or linearly, than my younger colleagues but that's just from doing it repeatedly.

Not sure it's to do with maths education per se..

A large proportion of the youngsters who come to train on the farm with me seem to have degrees in anthropology..
None of them are monarchists..

What's that all about then .??

 

[mudsticks]

I've said many times the reason I post is to provide an alternative opinion to what your little echo chamber usually hears, apparently some like a different view of things?

You don't seriously think we never hear 'Little Englander' views almost everywhere else on the internet, and in real life too do you??

There are whole chunks of the internet dedicated to promoting rightwing, and anti progressive opinions..

I'm not suggesting you shouldn't put your pov here, but please don't feel you have to come 'educate' us in the fact that small and big C , conservative views are prevalent in most places
We already know that.

That's why we ended up with a separate NACA forum, in the first place

Because (apparently) the main forum was too 'upset' by our crazy progressive viewpoints and discussions..

So it all got a bit too much for their delicate 'apolitical' sensibilities, and we had to be screened off from view.

Apolitical being misnomer of course, because pretty much everything is political.

'celebrating' the jubilee is a political act.

It's just a status quo maintaining political act..

 

[Fab Foodie]

It's just a status quo maintaining political act..

Whatever you want....

 

[mudsticks]

Whatever you want....

We should all just roll over and lay down..

 

[Craig the cyclist]

with a view to relocating once he finished working. As far as I know that's over

Why is it over? He can still retire to Spain, it is just a different visa.

 

[Fab Foodie]

We should all just roll over and lay down..

Don't think it matters....

 

[Xipe Totec]

Why is it over? He can still retire to Spain, it is just a different visa.

You'd need to ask him - it's not something he talks about any more.

 

[mudsticks]

You'd need to ask him - it's not something he talks about any more.

Pre brexit it was as easy to retire to Barcelona as Bournemouth .

No visa required

Now you have to have minimum guaranteed provable substantial income, there's no direct reciprocal health arrangement.

Property purchase is more complicated.

It has all become much harder to do.

Unless of course you have lots of wonga..
Or the right 'connections'.. As per usual.

https://www.advancemoves.com/moving-to-spain