Liz Truss - the first 100 days....

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Rusty Nails

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Unless the two bodyguards and driver are on zero hours contracts, they presumably get paid if she uses them or not? So, no saving (of taxpayers money) even if she attended the school without them.

Or they could be used doing something useful. I assume there is not a department full of security guards sitting idle just waiting to be used as security for former PMs.
 

BoldonLad

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Or they could be used doing something useful. I assume there is not a department full of security guards sitting idle just waiting to be used as security for former PMs.

I hope you are correct, but, I suspect you are being wildly optimistic.
 

icowden

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Unless the two bodyguards and driver are on zero hours contracts, they presumably get paid if she uses them or not? So, no saving (of taxpayers money) even if she attended the school without them.
Almost certainly that. They will have employed x number of security guards to provide round the clock security.

Interestingly there is no public information about the cost of security or number of guards for former Prime Minsters due to er...

security reasons!
 
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icowden

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Of Bolden's spectacularly dim take, or of Truss having close protection?
Both. You haven't offered an alternative take - that's usually how discussion works!
It's hard to see why you find the idea of Truss having full time paid bodyguards is particularly dim.
 
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multitool

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Both. You haven't offered an alternative take - that's usually how discussion works!
It's hard to see why you find the idea of Truss having full time paid bodyguards is particularly dim.

My view of Truss's bodyguard's: It's standard. They all have them, as do thirteen Royals. Surely the recent assassination of Abe demonstrates that there is a need.

Boldon's ridiculous comment: (They get paid regardless,whether she uses them or not, so no saving of tax-payer money.) Ridiculous because the number of people employed is based on perceived need. Remove the requirement for ex-PMs to have close protection and fewer would be employed.

On a more more informed level, there was a motion in parliament about a decade ago about funding for ex-PMs bodyguards coming from the public purse.

The motion was for these politicians to pay for their protection themselves if it was required during a private income generating event for the ex-PM in question.
 

BoldonLad

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My view of Truss's bodyguard's: It's standard. They all have them, as do thirteen Royals. Surely the recent assassination of Abe demonstrates that there is a need.

Boldon's ridiculous comment: (They get paid regardless,whether she uses them or not, so no saving of tax-payer money.) Ridiculous because the number of people employed is based on perceived need. Remove the requirement for ex-PMs to have close protection and fewer would be employed.

On a more more informed level, there was a motion in parliament about a decade ago about funding for ex-PMs bodyguards coming from the public purse.

The motion was for these politicians to pay for their protection themselves if it was required during a private income generating event for the ex-PM in question.

Been on the sauce again, have we? ;)

Blue would would be nice, IMHO.
 
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icowden

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Boldon's ridiculous comment: (They get paid regardless,whether she uses them or not, so no saving of tax-payer money.)
Well, we don't actually know that as it is not the public domain.

Ridiculous because the number of people employed is based on perceived need. Remove the requirement for ex-PMs to have close protection and fewer would be employed.
Well of course, but that's a new point and not what Boldon was speculating about.
On a more more informed level, there was a motion in parliament about a decade ago about funding for ex-PMs bodyguards coming from the public purse.
The motion was for these politicians to pay for their protection themselves if it was required during a private income generating event for the ex-PM in question.
Seems reasonable. Lots of questions being asked about the allowances Liz now gets for just 45 days work. ALthough to be fair I don't think any one anticipated a 45 day rule by a prime minister unless they were deceased at the end of it. Historically the PM has been chosen for some sort of competence, it's only the last few where we tried this new idea of populism.
 

multitool

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Well, we don't actually know that as it is not the public domain.

You might not know it, but that doesn't mean it'd not in "the public domain"

Well of course, but that's a new point and not what Boldon was speculating about.

What? How do you think police resources are allocated? It's pretty tight. There isn't a massive pool of people just hanging about waiting for a job. and hanging about doing fück all if nothing crops up. There are a small number of specialist officers nationally brought in to supplement dedicated units as and when. This is why if there is something big on (G8, royal funeral/coronation etc) there will be people seconded in from all four corners.
 

BoldonLad

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You might not know it, but that doesn't mean it'd not in "the public domain"



What? How do you think police resources are allocated? It's pretty tight. There isn't a massive pool of people just hanging about waiting for a job. and hanging about doing fück all if nothing crops up. There are a small number of specialist officers nationally brought in to supplement dedicated units as and when. This is why if there is something big on (G8, royal funeral/coronation etc) there will be people seconded in from all four corners.

interesting scenario, an ex PM (choose any you wish), decides they want to go for a jog/cycle ride/ parents evening/etc. so, they phone-up “the resource Centre” to request a slot. I don’t think so., but, you might be right, given all these “Tory cuts”.
 

multitool

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interesting scenario, an ex PM (choose any you wish), decides they want to go for a jog/cycle ride/ parents evening/etc. so, they phone-up “the resource Centre” to request a slot. I don’t think so., but, you might be right, given all these “Tory cuts”.

That isn't how it works.

I mean, at a guess I'd estimate Liz Truss didn't have enough time in office to pìss off that many people, unlike Blair whose teams will be huge as a consequence
 
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