Oh no!! Brexit not going quite as well as hoped

[AndyRM]

the benefits are whatever people want to make of brexit........thats upto the individual, not my job to tell anyone how to feel.

I'm not asking to be told how to feel. I'm asking for what yours, or anyone's, knowledge of the real life, tangible benefits of Brexit are.

Because as I said, so far nobody has been able to enlighten me.

 

[Fab Foodie]

I'm not asking to be told how to feel. I'm asking for what yours, or anyone's, knowledge of the real life, tangible benefits of Brexit are.

Because as I said, so far nobody has been able to enlighten me.

We're going to need a lot of popcorn....

 

[jowwy]

I'm not asking to be told how to feel. I'm asking for what yours, or anyone's, knowledge of the real life, tangible benefits of Brexit are.

Because as I said, so far nobody has been able to enlighten me.

i dont have anyone elses knowledge, so cant help you there.........if nobody can enlighten you, maybe its time you grew up and enlightened yourself.

 

[AndyRM]

i dont have anyone elses knowledge, so cant help you there.........if nobody can enlighten you, maybe its time you grew up and enlightened yourself.

I'm 36, literate and more than capable of comprehending the news. It's a pretty basic question "What are the benefits of Brexit?" really, but I've not been able to find the answer, because it simply doesn't exist.

If your answer is "Wait 40 years and we'll see" as it seems to be, then fair enough. But that's pretty poor IMO. Actually, no, it's worse than poor, it's a total non-answer.

 

[jowwy]

159 pages of the same people, asking the same questions and berating the same people over and over and over and over again.......add to that the 300 pages from the other place, and we can see why people of fed up of the same whinging constantly.


Its time for people to grow up and accept whats happened.

 

[AndyRM]

I accept what's happened.

Am I happy about it? No.

Would I like to know what's good about it? Yes.

Seems pretty reasonable to me.

 

[jowwy]

I accept what's happened.

Am I happy about it? No.

Would I like to know what's good about it? Yes.

Seems pretty reasonable to me.

you have not accpeted it at all....otherwise you wouldnt still be whinning about it at every oppurtunity you get

 

[jowwy]

Hey, maybe now johnsons gone, you may get to see more benefits of brexit.......or maybe there isnt any and the 51.9% of the country got it worng.....but they were asked the question from a tory government, hell bent on destroying their party from within.

Who Knows

 

[AndyRM]

you have not accpeted it at all....otherwise you wouldnt still be whinning about it at every oppurtunity you get

I literally just said I accepted Brexit. There's nothing I can do about it so I have. I voted to remain, I lost. Plus ca change...

I'm not whining, I'm asking a question.

Had time to consider any benefits yet? Or are you just carrying on with the insults?

 

[jowwy]

I literally just said I accepted Brexit. There's nothing I can do about it so I have. I voted to remain, I lost. Plus ca change...

I'm not whining, I'm asking a question.

Had time to consider any benefits yet? Or are you just carrying on with the insults?

i dont need time to consider any benefits or time to post them here.....hope that helps with the answer to your question on MY views of brexit.

 

[AndyRM]

i dont need time to consider any benefits or time to post them here.....hope that helps with the answer to your question on MY views of brexit.

Not especially. What I've got so far is "Wait 40 years to see what happens" and that's about it.

Fair enough. Not sure how that's of any benefit, or furthering the discussion but there we go.

 

[jowwy]

Not especially. What I've got so far is "Wait 40 years to see what happens" and that's about it.

Fair enough. Not sure how that's of any benefit, or furthering the discussion but there we go.

well you havent listened to anyone elses views, so no point posting mine for you to ignore too.............like you state, no point carrying on the discussion, but im guessing you will add at leat another 40/50 pages to the thread, asking the same questions.

 

[AndyRM]

well you havent listened to anyone elses views, so no point posting mine for you to ignore too.............like you state, no point carrying on the discussion, but im guessing you will add at leat another 40/50 pages to the thread, asking the same questions.

Um. I have? But the persistent and entirely reasonable question asked by me and others is "What are the benefits of Brexit?"

I didn't "state" anything about furthering the discussion, it's one I'd be happy to. But it's not going anywhere if nobody can actually give any benefits of Brexit.

I'll put it another way: what do you believe Britain will gain from no longer being part of the EU?

 

[icowden]

Its time for people to grow up and accept whats happened.

We have. I totally accept what has happened. The question is - what are we going to do about it?

An analogy:-

The owners of an office block run a staff referendum to decide whether the office block should have a swimming pool on the 10th floor or a 20 storey building. They aren't able to demonstrate any real benefits to having a swimming pool, whilst the staff who disagree are concerned that it will be pointless, costly and reduce the amount of business the company is able to do.

They lose the vote. The swimming pool is built - hurrah! We are now at the point where were we have realised that no-one can get past the 10th floor as the lifts were removed to make the pool the right size. The lining is leaking and water is slowly destroying the lower offices, and the heating system has failed. To add to that an architectural survey has revealed that if we don't do something the building will collapse. In the meantime, the business has lost huge amounts of money and productivity, very few people are happy except for those few still swimming in the freezing cold pool shouting "we have a pool isn't it great!".

We have Brexit. It has happened. We can clearly see the impact and how it is destroying the country. We now need change. We need to re-join the single market and negotiate for a Norway type relationship with the EU so that we can restore trade and rescue the economy.

 

[BoldonLad]

We have. I totally accept what has happened. The question is - what are we going to do about it?

An analogy:-

The owners of an office block run a staff referendum to decide whether the office block should have a swimming pool on the 10th floor or a 20 storey building. They aren't able to demonstrate any real benefits to having a swimming pool, whilst the staff who disagree are concerned that it will be pointless, costly and reduce the amount of business the company is able to do.

They lose the vote. The swimming pool is built - hurrah! We are now at the point where were we have realised that no-one can get past the 10th floor as the lifts were removed to make the pool the right size. The lining is leaking and water is slowly destroying the lower offices, and the heating system has failed. To add to that an architectural survey has revealed that if we don't do something the building will collapse. In the meantime, the business has lost huge amounts of money and productivity, very few people are happy except for those few still swimming in the freezing cold pool shouting "we have a pool isn't it great!".

We have Brexit. It has happened. We can clearly see the impact and how it is destroying the country. We now need change. We need to re-join the single market and negotiate for a Norway type relationship with the EU so that we can restore trade and rescue the economy.

First bolded bit... agreed

Second bolded bit..... so, is any party (with a chance of winning a GE) proposing this?