Oh no!! Brexit not going quite as well as hoped

[icowden]

Maybe cause i was fed up of you asking questions…….i mean, you could have just read my previous post with a 9 point answer, but hey ho, your perogative

I did, I responded to it in detail. You responded to me. I responded back. You became defensive again as you had run out of ways to justify your position and were in danger of having to think?

 

[Deleted member 28]

You are Esther McVile AICMFP.

Thank you. 😊

 

[AndyRM]

You never insult anyone do you…..pot, kettle again

Just you to be honest. Because you insult me.

 

[jowwy]

I did, I responded to it in detail. You responded to me. I responded back. You became defensive again as you had run out of ways to justify your position and were in danger of having to think?

This reply wasnt to you….so clearly didnt read it very well

 

[jowwy]

Just you to be honest. Because you insult me.

Because your a knob…..

 

[jowwy]

Yes I have posted multiple times about the effects of brexit on the food and farming sector.


Great long reams, doubtless very dull to most on here.

I'm not sure I or anyone else here has stomach for it.
I have to speak, and write and debate about it enough in my 'other' life..

Suffice it to say the prospects for UK F&F as a whole is not looking good as things stand.

It was supposed to have been just one possible upside of brexit, where support, for even better farming and food production than that done under the CAP would be given - another lie pedalled by this administration, but aiui that's why some farmers voted brexit - I didn't despite not getting any EU money myself, I wanted to stay in for all the other sensible, and now proven reasons.


Although the proposed ELMS scheme (which is supposed to replace the single farm payment) sounds good on paper - I've peer reviewed a few - it won't be much use when farmers and growers are up against cheap unregulated imports from AUS AUS etc.

Plus were going to see deregulation on pesticides and GM - very worrying


Anyway, there I go again, droning on about it all .

As I've said many times before, I'm doing ok because I've designed a system that works for me, but it isn't the 'standard' model which farmers were strongly encouraged to follow , by many external pressures, not least the demand for cheap (cheap at point of sale) food.

But still, for some curious reason I've got myself involved in trying to at least help steer a course in a better direction for all farmers growers environment, and consumers.

How dumb is that?
Trying to help elsewhere when I'm already "Alright Jack" ..

Such virtue signalling eh

Anyhow, clearly your man Jowly knows far more about it all than I do really, and has even managed to suggest that I have an 'expanse' of staff..

His words not mine..

I have some staff..

So you will doubtless have great confidence in swallowing the veracity of all the rest of his opine...


Anyway...

Bedtime, another busy day tomorrow..

It was you that stated you had plenty of well paid staff, who also get other perks too……and as i have already stated, never seen a poor farmer, not even in wales….freelanders, land rovers and big tractors a plenty….not worried about the expense there are we….

as for the rest, your right, virtue signalling at its best….look at me, look at me

 

[AndyRM]

Because your a knob…..

Oh no. What a grievous blow to my fragile ego.

If you think I've insulted you, that's cute. I could go to town on you, but it wouldn't be worth the effort.

 

[jowwy]

Oh no. What a grievous blow to my fragile ego.

If you think I've insulted you, that's cute. I could go to town on you, but it wouldn't be worth the effort.

Ive probably heard worse from people i care about, than from some scottish keyboard warrior with a chip on his shoulder……….

 

[icowden]

This reply wasnt to you….so clearly didnt read it very well

Again - you seem to have missed the point of an open discussion forum. If you want a private conversation you are in the wrong place.

 

[icowden]

It was you that stated you had plenty of well paid staff, who also get other perks too……and as i have already stated, never seen a poor farmer, not even in wales….freelanders, land rovers and big tractors a plenty….not worried about the expense there are we….

So you are criticising @mudsticks for looking after her staff. I thought you said you were a labour supporter? You really ought to check in the mirror. Shafting your workforce is traditionally the preserve of the Conservative party and capitalism.

You do realise that farmers need landrovers and big tractors in order to be farmers? I've come across tradesmen who have expensive power tools - it's not because they are showing off. Similarly I work on powerful data servers - because that's where the data is, not because I want a big powerful server for the sake of it.

I imagine that whatever job you do, you have the tools to do it with?

 

[jowwy]

Again - you seem to have missed the point of an open discussion forum. If you want a private conversation you are in the wrong place.

But you replied on behalf of someone else, about a post that wasnt aimed towards you……but thats nothing unusual in this place………weres that bandwagon gone, some more people want to jump on

 

[AndyRM]

Ive probably heard worse from people i care about, than from some scottish keyboard warrior with a chip on his shoulder……….

"Scottish keyboard warrior"?

Seriously? And you're the one accusing me of being racist?

And I doubt you have. That doesn't even make sense. Why would they insult you if you care about them, and assumingly, they about you?

 

[jowwy]

So you are criticising @mudsticks for looking after her staff. I thought you said you were a labour supporter? You really ought to check in the mirror. Shafting your workforce is traditionally the preserve of the Conservative party and capitalism.

You do realise that farmers need landrovers and big tractors in order to be farmers? I've come across tradesmen who have expensive power tools - it's not because they are showing off. Similarly I work on powerful data servers - because that's where the data is, not because I want a big powerful server for the sake of it.

I imagine that whatever job you do, you have the tools to do it with?

Im not criticising her at all….but brexit cant be that bad if she can afford all those things and make a good living for herself.

no i work for a business that has the tools for the job and we dont go for the top of the range stuff, as its just over expensive guff….much like landrovers and freelanders. And farmers dont need them, they just want them

 

[jowwy]

"Scottish keyboard warrior"?

Seriously? And you're the one accusing me of being racist?

And I doubt you have. That doesn't even make sense. Why would they insult you if you care about them, and assumingly, they about you?

Since when has calling someone scottish, been racist?? Are you not scottish then???

because people are strange beings….

 

[AndyRM]

Since when has calling someone scottish, been racist?? Are you not scottish then???

because people are strange beings….

Yeah, I'm Scottish. But you're the one who has now brought race (twice) into our interactions. It's not something I've ever mentioned.

People are indeed strange beings.