Oh no!! Brexit not going quite as well as hoped

[BoldonLad]

No it doesn't surprise me at all, I encounter many people, totally uninterested in politics all the time .
It's fairly standard attitude, not a novel idea to me at all.

I'd feel the same sense of total ennui however, if anyone tried to talk to me about say football..

Hence I don't generally frequent places (or forums) where they routinely talk about football .

It's rather curious that some people totally uninterested in politics, do frequent a forum about politics though..

Don't you think??

Don't think any of my circle of acquaintances are on Cyclechat and/or NACA.

 

[BoldonLad]

Do they not?
I'd find that surprising, but I suppose it depends how you're defining politics.
I'll regularly hear or pass comment on the price of fuel, holiday delays, ambulance waiting times, the weather, the price of Lurpak, the proposed speed limits in Wales and so on, it's all politics.
Politics doesn't have to only be long debates and discussions about Brexit or the relative merits of the Tory candidates.

Yes, I get that......

 

[mudsticks]

Don't think any of my circle of acquaintances are on Cyclechat and/or NACA.

I don't suppose they are.

Not sure anyone suggested that they were, either ..

Although there's plenty of

"I don't care about politics" sorts on Cyclechat

Despite them all living in a world totally shaped by politics .

Be that as it may, I'm still kinda curious as to why "I'm not interested in politics" people spend any time on here .

On a forum explicitly about politics..

I guess they don't have other interests in their lives, maybe.??

 

[AndyRM]

as clear as your a racist.

Much like everything you post, your racism accusation is totally invented.

But hey, if it keeps you happy, you do you babe.

 

[BoldonLad]

I don't suppose they are.

Not sure anyone suggested that they were, either ..

Although there's plenty of

"I don't care about politics" sorts on Cyclechat

Despite them all living in a world totally shaped by politics .

Be that as it may, I'm still kinda curious as to why "I'm not interested in politics" people spend any time on here .

On a forum explicitly about politics..

I guess they don't have other interests in their lives, maybe.??

Can't answer that one I am afraid.

 

[icowden]

So would you say they vote Labour out of habit?? (perhaps because their parents did?)
Rather than because they particularly want to see more a more socially just, and fairer world?

Thinking back to my own political journey, when I left home for Uni (1992) I had grown up in a house that voted Conservative and been to public school. My perception of labour was that they wanted to remove assisted places and tax the crap out of everyone. There was also the background of the last labour government having caused strikes all over the place.

At Uni in my gang of friends we had a chap from Darlington who was staunch Tory (member of the young Conservatives) and another chap who was staunch Labour. Usually after pints, some sort of argument / debate would ensue, and as the YC knew his stuff, the L supporter would usually lose the argument - he just voted Labour because his parents had voted labour but hadn't really thought about it. At the same time I made some other friends who really liked just chewing the fat, talking about anything - and in particular one friend who enjoyed playing devils advocate (regardless of the debate). Through him I learned a lot about justifying your thoughts and challenging what you actually think you know.

After uni I became more and more interested in comedy, and in particular satire. Started reading Private Eye, and this again has encouraged me to challenge what I think. In the area I live, Labour don't have a chance, and I'm still not mahoosively left wing. I'm more middle of the road (as I think are probably the majority in the country that use a brain). But still, I'm one of those people who looks at the policies and the people. So whilst I'd like a more socially just and fairer world, I don't subscribe to some of the apparently egalitarian policies which would disenfranchise people unnecessarily.

For example, I don't believe that Private schools should be closed down and I don't agree with the removal of assisted places unless there is already something in place to offer those pupils the same level of education. For example in Finland there is no need for private schools as class sizes are 20 and schools are very well resourced. We can't do that straight away, and both of my children have benefitted from smaller class sizes and on site medical care. I had an assisted place. Removing opportunities for children with additional needs or who are neurodivergent etc isn't a positive - it seems unnecessarily reactionary and "screw the toffs".

On the other hand I also vehemently disagree with the current Tory policies of breaking international law, screwing the country over, shipping people off to Rwanda etc. I don't see these as being even half way good Conservative policies. If Conservatism is about good economy, sound finances etc we should be opening up trade and borders, reaping taxes from those who want to work here and making it easier to do that.

 

[matticus]

Although there's plenty of "I don't care about politics" sorts on Cyclechat
Despite them all living in a world totally shaped by politics .
Be that as it may, I'm still kinda curious as to why "I'm not interested in politics" people spend any time on here .

Mudsticks, you asked a specific question:

What do Labour voters in your area wish to see for society and in the world, or hope that their Labour politicians will deliver then??

Mr Lad answered that, so why have you switched targets to CycleChat posters?

 

[jowwy]

Mudsticks, you asked a specific question:


Mr Lad answered that, so why have you switched targets to CycleChat posters?

Its tyical of mudsticks, tars everyone with the same brush, if she cant get the answer she wants. Its nothing new from her tbh

 

[Deleted member 28]

Is that clear enough for you? You doss c*nt?

Now that's not very Lady like, or have you got out the 'Male aggressive' side of the bed this morning?😘

 

[Deleted member 28]

But hey, if it keeps you happy, you do you babe.

That's better.

 

[mudsticks]

Mudsticks, you asked a specific question:


Mr Lad answered that, so why have you switched targets to CycleChat posters?

I know it's like I can have two trains of thought in my head at the same time ..

And not fall over whilst doing it ..

Miraculous huh??

 

[Ian H]

...Started reading Private Eye...

Do you still read it?

 

[matticus]

I know it's like I can have two trains of thought in my head at the same time ..

And not fall over whilst doing it ..

Miraculous huh??

Well good for you; but it comes across as badgering someone who politely answered your question in some detail. A question that most would have judged to be purely rhetorical.
And we all know the quantities of righteous anger that fall down on those who DON'T answer questions, don't we?

 

[icowden]

Do you still read it?

Yes. I like the fairly unbiased journalism, the investigative journalism and the satire.

 

[mudsticks]

Well good for you; but it comes across as badgering someone who politely answered your question in some detail. A question that most would have judged to be purely rhetorical.
And we all know the quantities of righteous anger that fall down on those who DON'T answer questions, don't we?

Thanks for the back seat modding Matty..👍🏼


I'm sure you'd never catch Bolders persuing a line of questioning...

But I'm sure he appreciates your solid protection, all the same.

Even though, curiously, he himself doesn't appear to have been particularly distressed by my general inquiries ..

Maybe we should ask him about that ..🙂