Oh no!! Brexit not going quite as well as hoped

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jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Who care's, Sue Me
Not sure which element of 'language' you're referring to. There are a number different words in my post and a high probability that you have a, let's say, 'limited' understanding of many, if not most of them. There's unfortunately no real way of telling which ones bother you.

But you may be confusing me with someone who gives a sh!t.

Pathetic scumbag
 
Pathetic scumbag

I'm made of rubber, you're made of glue
Everything you say to me will bounce back onto you...
 
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mudsticks

mudsticks

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I know a few farmers who voted brexit

They did this because they genuinely thought that a better system for supporting good farming would be put in its place,which would be better than the rather blunt instrument of the CAP.

Although the UK government already had a lot of leeway to do things differently under the CAP, but chose not to.

There were certainly no injunctions against improving environmental standards, curbing the stranglehold of the multiples, supporting better farming, nor against encouraging lots of other beneficial actions, but the UK government chose not to do those things.

Under their 'let the market decide' way of operating.
That way of operating failed, as it's so short term.

I don't know any of those farmers who don't now regret that decision.

They see how they've been conned.

The CAP.definitely needs reforming (again) the reason it went to mostly basic area payments with a little bit of greening on the side
(Pillar 1 and Pillar 2) is because European farmers did what they were told to do..

Post war, poduced massive amounts of commodities for the short term, using large amounts of inputs, which had in their turn, very damaging consequences for the environment, and markets.

That's why subsidies on production were removed years ago - although people still talk about subsidies for farmers - they don't actually exist any more.

But now we can't have any part in those CAP reforms

We get to design our own system of support..
Although that's taking a long time, and leaving many farmers highly uncertain about what the future holds.

Especially those locked out if, or at least very much impeded from accessing EU markets


Farming is a long term game, or should be if you're doing it right

Building soils, biodiversity, and sustainability for future generations.
Whilst producing good food now, for people now.

With returns as they are, workforce diminished, and future markets destabilised by brexit, and the threat of unregulated imports, all that is really hard to plan for.
 
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jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Who care's, Sue Me
here we are, back in the victim thread again with virtue signallers…….its all getting a bit boring now.
 

Rusty Nails

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here we are, back in the victim thread again with virtue signallers…….its all getting a bit boring now.

Where was the virtue signalling?

If you took the time to read what someone who actually knows what they are talking about wrote, instead of just being bitter, you might understand why many are still unhappy about the future of their trade post-Brexit.

This is a thread about post-Brexit opinions so why don't you, as someone who is pro Brexit, come up with something to contradict what was actually said?

Hint: That was a rhetorical question because there is not a cat-in-hell's chance of you doing so because you usually say that you choose not to answer.
 
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qigong chimp

Settler of gobby hash.
Frankly, it used to embarrass me a bit, being so undeserved. There seemed no good reason why I alone should be immune to the ageing, sickness and death to which all your flesh is heir. Being a modest cove I could think of no quality I possessed that would so distinguish me from the rest of suffering humanity, or personal achievement that would make me exemplary. It just was that way, random and deeply mysterious, like God choosing the Jews, or Brexit.

So when a Consultant impressed upon me recently that I am not, after all, immortal - perhaps I should say the immortal - it kick-started a bit of a re-appraisal. This process is ongoing but, pro tem, might I ask that in consideration of my not being forever for this world you treat me really nicely, no matter how much weapons-grade ordure I subject you to? It's only fair.

Thanks assholes.
 
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BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
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Frankly, it used to embarrass me a bit, being so undeserved. There seemed no good reason why I alone should be immune to the ageing, sickness and death to which all your flesh is heir. Being a modest cove I could think of no quality I possessed that would so distinguish me from the rest of suffering humanity, or personal achievement that would make me exemplary. It just was that way, random and deeply mysterious, like God choosing the Jews, or Brexit.

So when a Consultant impressed upon me recently that I am not, after all, immortal - perhaps I should say the immortal - it kick-started a bit of a re-appraisal. This process is ongoing but, pro tem, might I ask that in consideration of my not being forever for this world you treat me really nicely, no matter how much weapons grade ordure I subject you to? It's only fair.

Thanks assholes.

If it's OK with you, I will put that in the "thinking about it box" ;)
 
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mudsticks

mudsticks

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Frankly, it used to embarrass me a bit, being so undeserved. There seemed no good reason why I alone should be immune to the ageing, sickness and death to which all your flesh is heir. Being a modest cove I could think of no quality I possessed that would so distinguish me from the rest of suffering humanity, or personal achievement that would make me exemplary. It just was that way, random and deeply mysterious, like God choosing the Jews, or Brexit.

So when a Consultant impressed upon me recently that I am not, after all, immortal - perhaps I should say the immortal - it kick-started a bit of a re-appraisal. This process is ongoing but, pro tem, might I ask that in consideration of my not being forever for this world you treat me really nicely, no matter how much weapons grade ordure I subject you to? It's only fair.

Thanks assholes.

I think you can only claim that sort of exemption if you can reliably prove you originate from the Celtic fringe .

And I mean reliably...

Otherwise im afraid is a no from me..
 
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