Oh no!! Brexit not going quite as well as hoped

[mudsticks]

Surely the pandemic has taught you there's no such thing as crappy work ?

I think he means crappy pay terms and conditions.

Not that the work has no intrinsic value.
Quite the reverse.

My status, and returns* as a fresh food producer, and supplier has risen somewhat over these last few years..

Which is nice, if a tad overdue.

*But still not astronomically well paid for the amount of work, involved.

The true costs being hidden, and returns depressed by various actors .

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Comment pieces in papers of all colours are not to be believed but considered as comments.

Do you believe what you read in the Sun, Mail or Express?

Yebbut Will Hutton is a serious economics journalist whose The State We're In was an important overview of the British economy, he's also a member of the independent ukeucommission.org, which is meeting precisely to build ladders to get the UK out of its hole. Why on earth should a party line Tory read him?

 

[Rusty Nails]

Yebbut Will Hutton is a serious economics journalist whose The State We're In was an important overview of the British economy, he's also a member of the independent ukeucommission.org, which is meeting precisely to build ladders to get the UK out of its hole. Why on earth should a party line Tory read him?

I agree with Hutton's comments in that article, but I am not a party line Tory. People, of all political colours, should read comments/articles in newspapers of all leanings, including the Mail and Express, with an open mind and then make their minds up about what they agree with or not. That gives a clue why some posters do not read comment articles in the Guardian.

 

[Ian H]

I agree with Hutton's comments in that article, but I am not a party line Tory. People, of all political colours, should read comments/articles in newspapers of all leanings, including the Mail and Express, with an open mind and then make their minds up about what they agree with or not. That gives a clue why some posters do not read comment articles in the Guardian.

A terribly right-wing friend of mine (right of sensible, I call him) reads the Telegraph, The Times, The Spectator. I made a remark about the Mail and he looked horrified – "Good God no! That would be a step too far!".

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

I agree with Hutton's comments in that article, but I am not a party line Tory. People, of all political colours, should read comments/articles in newspapers of all leanings, including the Mail and Express, with an open mind and then make their minds up about what they agree with or not. That gives a clue why some posters do not read comment articles in the Guardian.

You weren't the person seeking to preserve a partial and partisan view.

 

[Unkraut]

Will Hutton is a serious economics journalist whose The State We're In was an important overview of the British economy,

Good book that.

 

[Bromptonaut]

Surely the pandemic has taught you there's no such thing as crappy work ?

I was thinking of care assistants running themselves ragged for a pittance; I'd call that crappy work.

 

[Deleted member 49]

I was thinking of care assistants running themselves ragged for a pittance; I'd call that crappy work.

Maybe you would but it isn't to many.It's the wages/employers not the job....big difference as plenty enjoy and take pride in what they do.No such thing as a crappy job for me.Its a means to an end.Ive done plenty myself.

 

[Pale Rider]

As already pointed 'growth' in recovery from a precipitous fall and where pre fall levels are only just reached isn't exactly a matter for crowing from the roof tops.

Of course I approve of increased wages for crappy work. The problem in the care sector is that the crappy wages are priced in and arguably exist at the behest of the councils paying for the care. Central government has, in turn, incentivised councils to do exactly that.

Unless the government's Damascene conversion to wage increases carries through into funding for Social Care a lot of Care Homes will go to the wall. Policy so far in that area seems to be focussed on backfilling inheritances rather than actual care.

That took a bit of twisting and turning to reach the point of blaming the government.

But you got there in the end, well done.

Your next task is to blame the government when your milk goes sour in the fridge.

I'm sure your are up to it.

 

[cookiemonster]

That took a bit of twisting and turning to reach the point of blaming the government.

But you got there in the end, well done.

Your next task is to blame the government when your milk goes sour in the fridge.

I'm sure your are up to it.

Still embarrassed that Brexit's not going well?

 

[Pale Rider]

Still embarrassed that Brexit's not going well?

A growing economy and reducing unemployment.

Yeah, Brexit's going terribly.

 

[Deleted member 28]

I was thinking of care assistants running themselves ragged for a pittance; I'd call that crappy work.

If there was twice as many of them and they were on £20 an hour would it be crappy work then?

 

[cookiemonster]

A growing economy and reducing unemployment.

Yeah, Brexit's going terribly.

With 1.1 million unfilled vacancies, serious supply chain problems, billions of pounds in corrupt PPE contracts, 3 million quid buying you a Peerage, small businesses closing as they cannot send to the EU (and vice versa), allowing the pumping of raw sewage into rivers and seas.

Yeah, it's going well.

 

[cookiemonster]

If there was twice as many of them and they were on £20 an hour would it be crappy work then?

Still crappy work but properly rewarded.

 

[Deleted member 28]

Still crappy work but properly rewarded.

I think sat in an office all day at a computer is crappy work, call centre etc, caring for the vulnerable I would put at the top of the pile to be honest?

I suppose being married to a nurse with over 30yrs of 'service' sways my opinion somewhat.

Each to their own.