Oh no!! Brexit not going quite as well as hoped

[FishFright]

Disagree , there are huge overlaps in peoples definitions and those overlaps are very much based on where you 'think' you stand on the continuum. As a quick example, the Democratic party is seen in the USA as a left wing party (almost commies in some Republican circles), in the UK it would be slightly right of centre like a moderate Conservative party. Nobody much in the UK would consider USA Democrats a party of the left.

Why do quite normal things break once the CC/Naca crew get there hands on them but manage to function everywhere else?

Those words have had working definitions in political study and sociology for decades, yet on here they must be redefined before we are can discuss them. It's space filling worthy of the worst parts of bureaucracy .

 

[Fab Foodie]

I believe this poll has been deleted by the head of Ipsos Mori, on account of it being utter codswallop.

Ah, my old school and skateboarding buddy Ben!

 

[Cirrus]

Why do quite normal things break once the CC/Naca crew get there hands on them but manage to function everywhere else?

NACA - Land of the pedantic, home of the dogmatic

 

[glasgowcyclist]

The latest YouGov poll indicates the level of dissatisfaction with how things are going….
52% rate it as fairly badly or very badly:

 

[Fab Foodie]

Why do quite normal things break once the CC/Naca crew get there hands on them but manage to function everywhere else?

Those words have had working definitions in political study and sociology for decades, yet on here they must be redefined before we are can discuss them. It's space filling worthy of the worst parts of bureaucracy .

Then why not give us all the clear definitions so we in NACA can sing from the same song sheet?

The realpolitik is that the mindless majority have no idea what these 'clear definitions' are and view and discuss such terms from where they stand. Not space-filling nor bureaucracy.

 

[mudsticks]

Thanks mudders, very helpful.

No worries, I subscribe for professional purposes, and cos it's handy to know how 'the other side' view things ..

But one small point , any chance you could cut out the 'Mudders' appellation.

For some reason it puts me in mind of one of those 'jolly hockey sticks' sorts, stalwart of the lacrosse team.

I'm not that, nor never was a fan of scary people , coming at me with big sticks, and a rule book to back up their violent intent

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

No worries, I subscribe for professional purposes, and cos it's handy to know how 'the other side' view things ..

But one small point , any chance you could cut out the 'Mudders' appellation.

For some reason it puts me in mind of one of those 'jolly hockey sticks' sorts, stalwart of the lacrosse team.

I'm not that, nor never was a fan of scary people , coming at me with big sticks, and a rule book to back up their violent intent

Noted.

My exposure to the ''...ers'' ending comes from cricket, specifically Test Match Special, where Blofeld becomes Blowers, and Agnew becomes Aggers, etc. I've never seen a cricket bat used to inflict physical harm on other players. It's those guys throwing hard balls at you that you have to watch out for.

 

[winjim]

For accuracy and avoidance of confusion I think we need a definition of the difference between "extreme", "far", "middle" and "centre" when talking about left and right political views. For some who are happy on the fence anything out of their touching distance is extreme.

Yes, I would agree, these terms are meaningless, in rather the same way that "Working Class", "Middle Class", "rich", "poor", are also meaningless. they mean something different to each person.

The exact meaning of them varies with context but they do have great importance to some people as part of their culture and identity. Working class, middle class, left wing, right wing, moderate, Extreme: More than words.

 

[FishFright]

Then why not give us all the clear definitions so we in NACA can sing from the same song sheet?

The realpolitik is that the mindless majority have no idea what these 'clear definitions' are and view and discuss such terms from where they stand. Not space-filling nor bureaucracy.

Pure drivel

 

[mudsticks]

Noted.

My exposure to the ''...ers'' ending comes from cricket, specifically Test Match Special, where Blofeld becomes Blowers, and Agnew becomes Aggers, etc. I've never seen a cricket bat used to inflict physical harm on other players. It's those guys throwing hard balls at you that you have to watch out for.

Yup pretty much anything involving hurty projectiles..

I'm quickly locating myself elsewhere...

The exact meaning of them varies with context but they do have great importance to some people as part of their culture and identity. Working class, middle class, left wing, right wing, moderate, Extreme: More than words.

They are definitely more than just words, although it's always 'just words ' it's the meaning that has import, and variance


I like to think I try to avoid 'class war' as imo it does far more to keep us scrapping with each other, rather than working together for what's really important..

But my objection to being addressed as if a public schoolgirl, clearly shows I'm not totally immune to a bit of bristling at such 'class' pigeonholing not neither..

 

[winjim]

In exciting lunch news, for the first time since mid summer, the shop now has its full complement of sandwiches, drinks and crisps. Good times.

 

[Cirrus]

In exciting lunch news, for the first time since mid summer, the shop now has its full complement of sandwiches, drinks and crisps. Good times.

Hurrah!!... Brexit is done

 

[Deleted member 28]

In exciting lunch news, for the first time since mid summer, the shop now has its full complement of sandwiches, drinks and crisps. Good times.

I'll sleep better tonight, cheers. 🙄

 

[Fab Foodie]

Pure drivel

Really? Please elucidate.
Provide the meaningful definitions of the terms as understood by everyman.

 

[FishFright]

Really? Please elucidate.
Provide the meaningful definitions of the terms as understood by everyman.

When the BNP and the NF were marching did you really think that "the mindless majority" had no clue about them being the Far Right?

Or as CC's top polluter are you so removed from reality that you think those minions below your business class ass have no F-ing clue ???

You know those definitions are in common parlance and have been for decades so stop being a dick.