Population decline

[HMS_Dave]

Zero Hour Contracts offers no security and guaranteed hours. It can be a good gig if you have few commitments, but having a mortgage, kids and repayments tends to lead people to question its viability to them, which is also perfectly reasonable.

Turning into a "my family member does so it's great" and "stop whinging" is pretty short sighted. It really isn't viable to many.

 

[AuroraSaab]

It certainly works for some but too often it's become a way of employers being able to reduce their responsibilities and costs compared to giving people full time posts.

 

[CXRAndy]

Turning into a "my family member does so it's great" and "stop whinging" is pretty short sighted. It really isn't viable to many

It certainly works for some but too often it's become a way of employers being able to reduce their responsibilities and costs compared to giving people full time posts.

They're in business, potentially have less staff, less profits.

Zero contract accounts for still a small proportion of employment

There are still many more parts time workers compared to zero hours in the order 7-1

 

[icowden]

My oldest sister is in her 70s, still working 5 days a week, full time employment
With her volunteer work too, she is doing 50-60 hours per week
She is a US citizen

So essentially she is working until she drops in order to have healthcare.
That's not something to aspire to IMHO

 

[icowden]

Perhaps, that is a situation where a zero hours contract suits the employee AND employer. My brother (retired firefighter) has been on a zero hours deal at a National Undertaker for 10 years, suits him just fine. I did similar (although, not at an undertakers).

Oh absolutely. My point is that whilst many pensioners take a part time job so they have something to do and people to chat to, this doesn't finance their pension or solve the issue that we have far more elderly people than working age people.

 

[presta]

"European health systems depend on immigration"

And third world health systems depend on not having their staff poached by rich countries who can well afford to train their own.

 

[BoldonLad]

Oh absolutely. My point is that whilst many pensioners take a part time job so they have something to do and people to chat to, this doesn't finance their pension or solve the issue that we have far more elderly people than working age people.

Approximately 2/3rds of the UK population are working age, so, I fail to see how the bolded statement can be true?

 

[CXRAndy]

So essentially she is working until she drops in order to have healthcare.
That's not something to aspire to IMHO

She wants to work, she has a great job, part of the management team looking after retired billionaires in their 80s,90s

It's far better than waiting to die on minimum pension

 

[Rusty Nails]

She wants to work, she has a great job, part of the management team looking after retired billionaires in their 80s,90s

It's far better than waiting to die on minimum pension

Did you write Rachel Reeves' CV?

Go on, admit it, she's a carer wiping ar*es in an expensive retirement home.

 

[CXRAndy]

Did you write Rachel Reeves' CV?

They live in super skyscrapers, all their needs catered for

My sister tells me about one resident, who has 3 Bentleys. She wears the same colour dress to match the Bentley when she goes for a drive

Go and look up these facilities

 

[Rusty Nails]

They live in super skyscrapers, all their needs catered for

My sister tells me about one resident, who has 3 Bentleys. She wears the same colour dress to match the Bentley when she goes for a drive

So I was right.

 

[CXRAndy]

So I was right.

No, just reluctant.

To help you out. There are over 300,000 millionaires in New York, over 600,000 millionaires in California.

These wealthy people aren't concerned with cost, they want luxury and they get it

 

[Rusty Nails]

No, just reluctant.
To help you out. There are over 300,000 millionaires in New York, over 600,000 millionaires in California.
These wealthy people aren't concerned with cost, they want luxury and they get it

Including having their ar*es wiped by elderly people who have to work because they're on minimum pension.

But everything's grand, it's millionaires' sh*t.

 

[CXRAndy]

Including having their ar*es wiped by elderly people who have to work because they're on minimum pension.

I don't know who does the arse wiping, but if your pension isn't covering it, I'll put in a good word for you 👍

 

[Rusty Nails]

I don't know who does the arse wiping, but if your pension isn't covering it, I'll put in a good word for you 👍

My pensions are doing OK, thanks. As long as I can still afford cushioned bog-roll I'll be fine.