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Pross

Pross

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Pblakeney said:
Do they not get taught about jurisdiction in the US?
Or, is it Team America: World Police?
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Well as they appear not to have any jurisdiction over the rich and powerful of their own country they need to go after them somewhere else.
 
Beebo

Beebo

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Pross said:
Well as they appear not to have any jurisdiction over the rich and powerful of their own country they need to go after them somewhere else.
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Yes. As pointed out elsewhere.
Apart from Epstein, the only people who have been punished are British.
Maxwell, Mandelson and Andrew.

The US citizens seem to been completely unaffected.
 
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matticus

matticus

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Beebo said:
Yes. As pointed out elsewhere.
Apart from Epstein, the only people who have been punished are British.
Maxwell, Mandelson and Andrew.

The US citizens seem to been completely unaffected.
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I hadn't actually noticed that! Possibly chance, time will tell - but it's not a good look for the Yanks.
 
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Psamathe

Psamathe

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Pblakeney said:
Do they not get taught about jurisdiction in the US?
Or, is it Team America: World Police?
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My impression is that they are requesting on the basis he likely has information that can help them identify perpetrators worthy of further investigation. Not that they are trying to prosecute him nor arrest him. They were interviewing one of the US Committee a few days ago and the US committee member was saying Andrew could do it over video link (they didn't add "from whatever palace or castle he happens to be staying in at the time").

Everything I've seen has been requesting help on the basis it's the right thing to do not a question of jurisdiction.

That said the man's a fool so I don't read every detail relating to his exploits.
 
First Aspect

First Aspect

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There is no possibility Andrew will participate. He'd be an idiot to do so. Yes, he is an actual idiot, but the royal family will just want to muzzle him now.

There is no upside for him whatsoever. Either he tells the truth and it is damning for him, or it is innocuous and people will assume he is lying. Or he will continue to lie (which he is not good at) and people will see right through him.

You also couldn't rule out the possibility he'd expose himself to legal action here in the UK.
 
Pblakeney

Pblakeney

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Psamathe said:
My impression is that they are requesting on the basis he likely has information that can help them identify perpetrators worthy of further investigation. Not that they are trying to prosecute him nor arrest him. They were interviewing one of the US Committee a few days ago and the US committee member was saying Andrew could do it over video link (they didn't add "from whatever palace or castle he happens to be staying in at the time").

Everything I've seen has been requesting help on the basis it's the right thing to do not a question of jurisdiction.

That said the man's a fool so I don't read every detail relating to his exploits.
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Oh, I totally think he should help with the investigation to get to the truth of the matter.
I think he would be stupid to do so though for the reasons outlined by FA above. Therefore they are meaningless requests from the US.
 
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Psamathe

Psamathe

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First Aspect said:
There is no possibility Andrew will participate. He'd be an idiot to do so. Yes, he is an actual idiot, but the royal family will just want to muzzle him now.

There is no upside for him whatsoever. Either he tells the truth and it is damning for him, or it is innocuous and people will assume he is lying. Or he will continue to lie (which he is not good at) and people will see right through him.

You also couldn't rule out the possibility he'd expose himself to legal action here in the UK.
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I'm very unsure and agree but can also see other considerations may come into play.

1. I don't see any point in the US Committee taking his testimony. He's already been found to be lying on multiple occasions about his involvement and timescales so could they actually believe anythign he says?

2. The only people he might retain some interest in are the mega wealthy and fingering them for being Epstein mates is only going to alienate him further from them. (like Maxwell - anything and everything she says is just to endear herself to whoever holds the power to pardon so it's lies to endear herself)

3. But being seen by the UK public "to do the right thing" to show some consideration of the victims might just offset some of the public disgust ... but never going to be enough to allow him to appear in public again ... but might lessen his impact on the monarchy.
 
All uphill

All uphill

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Beebo said:
Yes. As pointed out elsewhere.
Apart from Epstein, the only people who have been punished are British.
Maxwell, Mandelson and Andrew.

The US citizens seem to been completely unaffected.
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Larry Summers, former US Treasury Secretary has stepped back from public commitments, "deeply ashamed"
 
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AuroraSaab

Pharaoh
Harvard received $9 million from Epstein before his 2008 conviction, including $6 million when Summers was president of the college. Epstein continued to visit the campus and meet with staff even after his conviction. I think there will be a lot more to come out about the recipients of his donations if the full information is released. I think even highly regarded, high profile, relatively wealthy people seem to have a weak spot when it comes to being given attention by billionaires.
 
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