Reform, and the death of the Tory Party

[Pblakeney]

Farage really pissed off that GMP found no evidence of 'family voting'.

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What is needed is for someone to have the courage to admit when they are wrong.

 

[Poacher]

"Put up or shut up " springs to mind, but of course Fagash is never likely to do either.

 

[briantrumpet]

A rather fun thread with video clips on Goodwin's attempts to defend his book. Let's just say he doesn't come across as the 'academic' he claims to be, rather a ranty git. And what's with that ranty git habit of talking with the head pointing off to one side?

https://skywriter.blue/@nickdickinson.bsky.social/3mi37qs2zyk2y

 

[Stevo 666]

I was absolutely countering your point. Your point is that for right wing politicians whom you agree with, it is fine for them to commit unethical acts as long as it is not illegal. For left wing politicians, whom you disagree with, it is completely disgraceful for them to commit an unethical act, even if it is legal.

That's the line you take whenever a right winger gets caught with their pants down Stevo 😂

Please feel free to find them guilty in whatever leftie kangaroo court you want and see how much difference it makes

 

[Stevo 666]

As Neidle said

It wasn't illegal. It was immoral, and abuse of the system.

That said, I can see that we aren't about to change your mind. Carry on with your worship of a man who wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire and consider what his influence is doing to the country. It's only about Tice with Tice. Sound familiar?

See my reply to midlandgrimpeur.

 

[Stevo 666]

Whoah there Stevo! We've now got the forum catamite claiming that because all his friend (sic) agree with his position the matter is settled. Cos being in the majority , imagined or otherwise trumps all your tax expertise . You can give yourself a like for that 😘

I do love debates with tax amateurs. Armed only with a poor understanding of the national and international tax system and a burning sense of injustice, they can take on the evil rich and those nasty multinationals Without offering to pay any more tax themselves.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

Please feel free to find them guilty in whatever leftie kangaroo court you want and see how much difference it makes

Is the rightie kangaroo court next door Stevo as you spend most of your time in there? Maybe we could grab a coffee afterwards? 😂

 

[Stevo 666]

Is the rightie kangaroo court next door Stevo as you spend most of your time in there? Maybe we could grab a coffee afterwards? 😂

I'm not trying to judge anyone here. I'll leave that for the courts.

Any news on that investigation into his tax affairs? Or could it have been some chippy Labour MP trying to stir things up?

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

I'm not trying to judge anyone here. I'll leave that for the courts.

Apart from Angela Raynor, Keir Starmer, Diane Abbott and the countless other left wing politicians that you regularly judge and mock (you seem to like to post jokes about female labour politicians being 'thick' in particular). Pull the other one Stevo 😂

 

[Stevo 666]

Apart from Angela Raynor, Keir Starmer, Diane Abbott and the countless other left wing politicians that you regularly judge and mock (you seem to like to post jokes about female labour politicians being 'thick' in particular). Pull the other one Stevo 😂

I take the piss out thick and inept politicians of my choosing, for sure. And thick forumites who dont get the point 😉

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

I take the piss out thick and inept politicians of my choosing, for sure. And thick forumites who dont get the point 😉

Who gets to decide who is thick? Kind of sounds judgmental, Stevo. I think everyone on the forum gets the point of your posts Stevo, they're not exactly troubled by nuance 😉

 

[TailWindHome]

Please feel free to find them guilty in whatever leftie kangaroo court you want and see how much difference it makes

It'll be the same court that judged on the matter of Starmer's free glasses and Reeves' Taylor Swift tickets

It's a court in which expanations that the client behaved 'legally' sometimes is of no help.

 

[icowden]

I do love debates with tax amateurs. Armed only with a poor understanding of the national and international tax system and a burning sense of injustice, they can take on the evil rich and those nasty multinationals Without offering to pay any more tax themselves.

Yes, because we don't need to pay any more farking tax as, as a percentage of our income we are already paying far more than than people who have far more money and can pay people to exploit the system.

 

[CXRAndy]

Let's have a flat fee for tax for individuals. Thats only fair

Remember the buying round of drinks scenario.

 

[Beebo]

I do love debates with tax amateurs. Armed only with a poor understanding of the national and international tax system and a burning sense of injustice, they can take on the evil rich and those nasty multinationals Without offering to pay any more tax themselves.

Do you have no moral view on the topic? Is it just a case of “if it’s legal, then crack on?”

We all know the international tax system is FUBAR, and big business exploits clear loopholes, it doesn't make it right.