Reform, and the death of the Tory Party

[midlandsgrimpeur]

Ah, I see you're towing the 'condescending leftie' line again. Less thick people will see the nuances, sometimes they're subtle

No Stevo, the only condescending one is you, suggesting people are thick as that is your only real tactic when you have no actual argument to speak of.

 

[Stevo 666]

No Stevo, the only condescending one is you, suggesting people are thick as that is your only real tactic when you have no actual argument to speak of.

You need to stop talking bollox mg. If you can't understand my argument that's not my problem

 

[icowden]

You need to stop talking bollox mg. If you can't understand my argument that's not my problem

I think it might be. If no-one can understand your argument, you're just a crazy bloke shouting in the virtual street...

Like Andy.

 

[Stevo 666]

I think it might be. If no-one can understand your argument, you're just a crazy bloke shouting in the virtual street...

Like Andy.

I think you and MG would get on well well as you both talk bollox and both don't understand tax properly.

 

[CXRAndy]

I think it might be. If no-one can understand your argument, you're just a crazy bloke shouting in the virtual street...

Like Andy.

Where's the shouting

All I see is outrage directed towards little old me

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

I think you and MG would get on well well as you both talk bollox and both don't understand tax properly.

Stevo, my point was never about tax as you well know. My point was calling out your hypocrisy.

Your point on Tice is he has not (so far) broken any law and therefore whether or not that is unethicall is immaterial. That's fine, you are entitled to that opinion.

My point is that when you see a left wing politician do something legal but (in some opinions) unethical, you will criticise them for their lack of ethics. You clearly did this when Starmer and co. had accepted gifts from donors.

You did not apply the same moral standards to Tice that you apply to so called lefties. In fact, with Tice you are adamant it does not matter. That is a double standard on your part and that is hypocritical in my opinion.

You often bash those on the left as hypocrites but refuse to ever accept you can be hypocritical too.

 

[C R]

Stevo, my point was never about tax as you well know. My point was calling out your hypocrisy.

Your point on Tice is he has not (so far) broken any law and therefore whether or not that is unethicall is immaterial. That's fine, you are entitled to that opinion.

My point is that when you see a left wing politician do something legal but (in some opinions) unethical, you will criticise them for their lack of ethics. You clearly did this when Starmer and co. had accepted gifts from donors.

You did not apply the same moral standards to Tice that you apply to so called lefties. In fact, with Tice you are adamant it does not matter. That is a double standard on your part and that is hypocritical in my opinion.

You often bash those on the left as hypocrites but refuse to ever accept you can be hypocritical too.

I will point out that the left usually criticises those the left that do that sort of thing, like Starmer* accepting gifts from rich donors.

* I know Starmer is not really on the left, but gave the example for the sake of argument.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

I will point out that the left usually criticises those the left that do that sort of thing, like Starmer* accepting gifts from rich donors.

* I know Starmer is not really on the left, but gave the example for the sake of argument.

Yes, I was critical of them and also Rayner for her tax avoidance. I didn't play politics just becuase they were on 'my side'.

 

[Pross]

It's not hypocrisy when it is righties though are their mantra is 'do whatever you can get away with'.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

* I know Starmer is not really on the left

I think @Stevo 666 will disagree with that. Watch out for a swerve.

 

[C R]

I think @Stevo 666 will disagree with that. Watch out for a swerve.

Him disagreeing with that part actually reinforces my point.