Reform, and the death of the Tory Party

[classic33]

Just over two weeks since the local elections and they(Reform UK)have managed to lose some 22 councillors for a variety of reasons.
The list as it stands:
Lost on election day:
Mike Morris
Clarence Mitchell
Alan Cook
Mark Shooter
Kira Gabbert

Resigned:
Daniel Devaney
Stuart Prior
Jay Cooper
Barry Martin
Stephen Mousdell
Andrew Harrison
Kenny Hope
Danielle Cavanagh

Defected:
Nick Farmer
Ashley Monk
Jo Monk
Matthew Jones

Suspended:
Ben Rowe
Glenn Gibbins
Paul Heyward
Nathaniel Menday
Laura Newham

 

[BoldonLad]

No, because as pointed out further up the thread, they tend to be on zero hours contracts.

You got supporting evidence for that?

Even those (slightly) above NMW often get paid overtime, most private sector care staff, for example. Plus of course NHS Nursing staff get paid overtime.

Quite a proportion of the working population there.

 

[Dorset Boy]

Just over two weeks since the local elections and they(Reform UK)have managed to lose some 22 councillors for a variety of reasons.
The list as it stands:
Lost on election day:
Mike Morris
Clarence Mitchell
Alan Cook
Mark Shooter
Kira Gabbert

Resigned:
Daniel Devaney
Stuart Prior
Jay Cooper
Barry Martin
Stephen Mousdell
Andrew Harrison
Kenny Hope
Danielle Cavanagh

Defected:
Nick Farmer
Ashley Monk
Jo Monk
Matthew Jones

Suspended:
Ben Rowe
Glenn Gibbins
Paul Heyward
Nathaniel Menday
Laura Newham

There's a good number of Greens who also got elected in May but who are not councillors today. Probably in percentage terms, it's higher.

 

[secretsqirrel]

Farage now complaining that Musk is splitting the Right vote in the by-election by supporting Lowe’s party.

Hope JD Vance pops over to to even the score

 

[C R]

You got supporting evidence for that?

Even those (slightly) above NMW often get paid overtime, most private sector care staff, for example. Plus of course NHS Nursing staff get paid overtime.

Quite a proportion of the working population there.

My daughters work in a pub under a zero hours contract (student job). There's no overtime, and the only day that there's any kind of extra pay is Christmas day. The other workers that are full time are under the same conditions. From what my daughters say of their friends in other pub chains or retail the situation is the same. I've heard that among supermarkets only Lidl and Aldi pay overtime.

Regarding care jobs, the situation is mixed. I know people who get overtime and people who work under similar conditions to zero hours contracts.

 

[TailWindHome]

I think they are defining 'overtime' as more than 40 hours

 

[secretsqirrel]

I think they are defining 'overtime' as more than 40 hours

Doesn’t sound terribly family friendly.

 

[briantrumpet]

I think they are defining 'overtime' as more than 40 hours

I suspect that they'll avoid actually defining anything.

 

[TailWindHome]

Well he says he here.

 

[Beebo]

Well he says he here.
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So part time workers won’t qualify and nor will anyone on a salary.
And what happens at the margin of £75k?
I don’t think anyone has thought this through.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

There's a good number of Greens who also got elected in May but who are not councillors today. Probably in percentage terms, it's higher.

There are a few, but mainly because they were ineligible (which is still inexcusable). By and large, they have not been suspended or forced to resign due to inappropriate conduct. I believe one Green Party member has been suspended for anti semitic social media posts. The hit rate for Reform Councillors, candidates and general party members is far higher.

There is no point trying to compare other parties with Reform. Ever since they started putting candidates forward for any elected office, Reform have had numerous people shown to have inexcusable past and present behaviours, often related to bullying, harrassment and racism. There is a very simple reason for this, Reform's policies attract people with certain views and attitudes. This is not left or liberal snobbery, it is a simple fact.

 

[Pblakeney]

There's a good number of Greens who also got elected in May but who are not councillors today. Probably in percentage terms, it's higher.

Yeah. Sums up UK politics. shoot.

 

[Pblakeney]

I suspect that they'll avoid actually defining anything.

I suspect that they won't have to.