CXRAndy
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Everyones vote and opinions are valid. Just because they don't align with others doesn't mean they're not worthy.
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Everyones vote and opinions are valid. Just because they don't align with others doesn't mean they're not worthy.
Stevo 666
Active Member
In which case they're probably just going to make it worse for themselves.
Stevo 666
Active Member
As Boldon Lad said above, Reform are taking a lot of votes from Labour.
CXRAndy
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View: https://x.com/TheNorfolkLion/status/1918304026665406759?t=Yv-TEaXzipPSZvMxdRso0g&s=19
Yep he's gone and done it 🤦♂️
CXRAndy
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Immigration front and centre
Being lazy (or rather busy doing house repairs), have the Conservative results got worse than the last General Election of improved on that vote?
ie is Ms Badenoch improving things or making them worse? I regard her ongoing excuse that she's still "new in post" as complete rubbish as parties often get a positive bounce on getting a new leader as people believe things will be better ie on prospects but at least by now one would expect some signs of things improving.
Ian
Stevo 666
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I suppose if by 'harder and faster' he means f***ing the county, then his statement is probably accurate.
The daft thing about the periodic "further and faster" is that is it is a good thing to do they should be doing that anyway, not noticing it every bit of bad news. But Starmer/Reeves/et. al. seem to only think "further and faster" is a plan when there is eg increased borrowing or loss of consumer confidence or election disaster. Why is it only a good idea when bad things happen to Labour?
Ian
Stevo 666
Active Member
The Kent County Council website says that the Tories have now held onto 5 seats. Clearly doesn't change the conclusion though.
https://democracy.kent.gov.uk/mgElectionResults.aspx?ID=51&RPID=282211135
...and I live in one of them...
Stevo 666
Active Member
Not sure what else he can say TBH.
dutchguylivingintheuk
Veteran
I would call losing 3 or 4 seats a nightmare, this is more like a wipeout.
I also find it hard to believe this came out of itself they probably have been ignoring their voters wishes and demands for some time.
Depends a bit on what it is which is the main problem with Starmer's labour so far it seems to be like the Tories but with other puppets and sponsors.
Think it would be better form them to concentrate on actually explaining their position and potential long(er) term views in order to convince poeple why they voted for them last elections, because if they fail to do so i see them losing net elections.
Beebo
Guru
It was a snap shot at 55 out of 81 seats declared. So it will change.
Beebo
Guru
The national projected vote share.
It’s been great for Reform. Pretty bad for Labour, but worse for Conservatives.
The danger is that the Conservatives will move right to chase Reform, but they can’t “out reform” Reform. And in doing so they will lose what ever moderate support they may have. And they are unlikely to move left. So they are in a lot of bother.
I can see some sort of “non compete pact” at the next election, which would have to be matched by a similar lab/lib/green pact.
It’s been great for Reform. Pretty bad for Labour, but worse for Conservatives.
The danger is that the Conservatives will move right to chase Reform, but they can’t “out reform” Reform. And in doing so they will lose what ever moderate support they may have. And they are unlikely to move left. So they are in a lot of bother.
I can see some sort of “non compete pact” at the next election, which would have to be matched by a similar lab/lib/green pact.
