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BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
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Why 9 countries do have nuclear weapons is open to conjecture and doesn't prove that they are safer than those who do not have nuclear weapons.


You are simply being a pedantic dipshit who is annoyed that he isn't winning his point.

Given that we cannot know which is safer, the 186 without or 9 with, the majority would seem to be the key indicator.

key indicator of what?
 

Psamathe

Guru
I read somewhere that the reason that Oman intervened shortly before the strikes was because they feared that the US negotiators were simply out of their depth and not understanding what was being negotiated/proposed. Given the incompetence that seems to be a requirement to be a member of Team Trump, it sounds highly plausible. Of course, it's also possible that the negotiations were simply a smokescreen in the run up to a planned assault. As with all these wreckers (including Johnson & Frost etc from 2019), if you can wreck deliberately or by incompentence, it doesn't really matter, as the wrecking is the objective, and it doesn't really matter how you achieve it.
I agree and additionally Trűmp does not seem to appreciate the complexity of these agreements. Far more involved than "OK, we'll do what you want" (eg as "what you want needs to be clearly specified,"). Also what US will be assuring in return needs defining to the point to having some degree it won't be torn-up a few days later.

Such agreements can never come from a 1hr meeting but my impression is Trùmp thinks that it doesn't even take that long.
 
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Psamathe

Guru
Would that be the Witkoff who's travelled to Russia multiple times but not once to Ukraine? That one??
Worth noting that Ukraine is pushing forward addressing the corruption from its past whereas Russia offers Witkoff/Trűmp/Kushner "business opportunities".
 

secretsqirrel

Senior Member
Many experts and analysts have commented that Witkoff and Kushner do not inspire any confidence at the negotiating table. They do not have the skills and the experience, but are ok with Trump because they have the same background. I guess they speak the language that Trump understands.
 
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