Starmer's vision quest

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briantrumpet

Timewaster
Handcuffing children is definitely a vote-winner. Mahmood for PM.

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CXRAndy

Epic Member
What an example to set your children, illegally break in or overstay your visa in the hope of living off benefits for the rest of your life- at others expense
 

Rusty Nails

Country Member
Greens might be. Labour isn't counter-messaging, it's just trying to out Reform Reform. They *should* be focusing on how asylum seekers can be assets, how they are getting rid of the cost of housing asylum seekers by investing in more staff to process claims, how they are monetising asylum seekers by issuing temporary NI numbers so that they can work and thus pay tax. All of these things would help.

Instead they do crass publicity stunts like paying families £40k to bugger off.

I agree that the £40k offer is performative rather than something that will make a huge difference.

I just don’t believe that positive messages, while necessary, will make much difference to the entrenched positions of many, and not just those in the Red Wall areas. Too many people feel ignored and left behind by governments of all persuasions and do not trust them at all. The fact that Reform are a bunch of racist chancers is irrelevant because they are persuading people that they are different from previous established parties, and that is enough for many.

You have a much more optimistic view of the power of positive messaging over negative than I do. Especially when the negative messaging plays on the fears and disappointment of large numbers.
 

briantrumpet

Timewaster
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And machetes were brought to the UK by black people who stole them from their kindly plantation owners. If you are going to be racist at least get it right.

You're arguing with a troll. Facts don't matter.
 

icowden

Pharaoh
You have a much more optimistic view of the power of positive messaging over negative than I do. Especially when the negative messaging plays on the fears and disappointment of large numbers.
It has to be backed up with action to work. Tell people you are saving by not paying to house refugees and they will be happier as the perceived "free money" is gone.
 

CXRAndy

Epic Member
You cant make this up, HMS Dragon destroyer delayed because staff only work 9 till 5

It would be quicker to make HMS Victory sea worthy and probably more potent in weaponry.

HMS Dragon will arrive with, slogans like 'dont do that' 'be nice to your neighbour' and £40k awaits you upon arrival
 
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