Starmer's vision quest

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Psamathe

Legendary Member
Interesting idea. Possibly throw in electoral reform as well? Two things that could also dictate the political future of the country, as if both went ahead, you would likely kill off Reform in the process.
My impression is that electoral reform to most "reformed" systems ie abandoning First Past The Post would help the smaller parties break the hold of Labour & Conservatives and thereby give eg Reform better prospects. Can't see Labour doing that, particularly when Reform are riding high in the polls and have been perceived by Labour as a massive "threat".
 

Dorset Boy

Senior Member
My impression is that electoral reform to most "reformed" systems ie abandoning First Past The Post would help the smaller parties break the hold of Labour & Conservatives and thereby give eg Reform better prospects. Can't see Labour doing that, particularly when Reform are riding high in the polls and have been perceived by Labour as a massive "threat".

Exactly. On FPTP, Reform could win very few seats, coming second in a large number.
With PR, they would be the largest party.
 

secretsqirrel

Über Member
Interesting idea. Possibly throw in electoral reform as well? Two things that could also dictate the political future of the country, as if both went ahead, you would likely kill off Reform in the process.

From what I’ve seen of Burnham I think some sort of Westminster reform might be in order, he is not a big fan of London centric government.
 

First Aspect

Legendary Member
My impression is that electoral reform to most "reformed" systems ie abandoning First Past The Post would help the smaller parties break the hold of Labour & Conservatives and thereby give eg Reform better prospects. Can't see Labour doing that, particularly when Reform are riding high in the polls and have been perceived by Labour as a massive "threat".
Indeed. It would also neuter separatism within the UK.

Given the polling, I don't understand why only the Lib Dems have this as a policy.
 

Psamathe

Legendary Member
Maybe, given that in the UK PMs don't stay in post long, maybe it's time to return more powers, more policy to Parliament. Maybe the PM should be more of an administrator managing the implementation of the wishes of our elected representatives. Less of what has become increasingly the case where PM determines policy and expects Parliament to rubber stamp his/her wishes.

And were that the case then maybe they'd last in post longer as when things don't go as public wants then it's their elected representatives to blame rather than one individual very very few actually got the opportunity to vote for (or against).
 
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