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Really....
'Anti-Corbyn Labour officials secretly diverted 2017 election resources to candidates hostile to the leadership and away from "winnable seats".'
But they was as bad as each other
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'Anti-Corbyn Labour officials secretly diverted 2017 election resources to candidates hostile to the leadership and away from "winnable seats".'
But they was as bad as each other
theclaud
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'Very fine people on both sides.'
FishFright
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Really....
'Anti-Corbyn Labour officials secretly diverted 2017 election resources to candidates hostile to the leadership and away from "winnable seats".'
But they was as bad as each other
It's pointless trying as he's convinced Corbyn was cloned from Stalin's DNA.
Rusty Nails
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Really....
'Anti-Corbyn Labour officials secretly diverted 2017 election resources to candidates hostile to the leadership and away from "winnable seats".'
But they was as bad as each other
So the cherry-picking starts:
"One of the key allegations of the 2020 leak was that Labour staff hostile to Corbyn ran a parallel campaign in the 2017 general election, which could have cost the party the chance of winning power.
The Forde report concluded this was “highly unlikely” while noting that the two sides “were trying to win in different ways”, based in part on seeking support for MPs they favoured."
As I said, dysfunctional.
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Rusty Nails
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If only. At least Stalin knew how to get into power, and resolve dissent.
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We lost....I get that bit.
But diverting funds from key marginals was a effort to sabotage a Corbyn/Labour win.You do get that don't you ?
As for the anti semitism and Corbyn...well we don't need to go there do we. 🙄
Rusty Nails
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As I said , cherry-picking, and we can all do that.
"The report does not find that the operation was conducted in “bad faith” or an attempt at “sabotage”. HQ pulled off their secret operation because they really believed that they needed to stop MPs losing their seats, rather than because they wanted Corbyn to lose, the report says.
Labour came surprisingly close to pulling off a shock election win. The report finds it “highly unlikely” that this diversion of funds lost Labour the election, but admits, “We were not in a position to commission any original psephological analysis.” The alleged amount spent was £135,000 – “a very small sum”, says the report.".....From Novara article
"We find that both HQ staff and Loto staff wanted the party to win with as many of their favoured MPs in place as possible, which prevented fully objective decision-making; the two sides were trying to win in different ways." ....From Forde report.
"It was a very dysfunctional party at that time"......From Rusty Nails.
You are right. Nobody needs to go down the anti-Semitism trail.
"Perhaps what is most interesting about a report that includes such explosive findings is that it has been used by so many to show that they were, in fact, right all along.
But there is also lots for everyone to be unhappy with as well – perhaps most obviously a tendency to “both sides” the conclusions. For the Corbyn-supportive elements, the effect of finding both sides equally culpable in factional war is to make an equivalence between an elected leader of the party and the unelected staff trying to undermine him. For the anti-Corbyn wing of the party, the conclusion that “both factions” weaponised antisemitism is equally disagreeable. Akehurst branded it “offensive”, arguing in his opinion that: “There’s no moral equivalence between factionalism fighting antisemitism and factionalism whitewashing it.”.....From The Guardian
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Waste of time...everythings about what they won't do !
View: https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/1551470574211399688?t=MAG1hsuQZlyvpfAGBTm89A&s=19
View: https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/1551470574211399688?t=MAG1hsuQZlyvpfAGBTm89A&s=19
theclaud
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Yea thanks I read that earlier....it's come to something when even me thinks Burnham is the best bet we've got !
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Growth,growth,growth
