Starmer's vision quest

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multitool

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Yes, it would seem so.

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C R

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The Tories coming to Manchester to announce there cancelling HS2 to here lol...this should be more than easy for Labour.
 

pubrunner

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The following link makes interesting (if unsurprising) reading :

https://www.politico.eu/article/all-of-keir-starmers-u-turns-in-one-place/

No one's mentioned Labour's position on the Rosebank oilfield.

They are opposed to it, but they will allow existing licenses should they come to power.

A clear statement (now) saying that they would revoke licenses, would mean it would be pointless investing. As it is, it's Labour's position that is pointless. Labour - what do they stand for ?
 

multitool

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It is investment and jobs...an avoiding the elephant trap of allowing the Tories to say Labour will lose you your job.

The still have to get elected.

No point doing a Corbyn.
 
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It is investment and jobs...an avoiding the elephant trap of allowing the Tories to say Labour will lose you your job.

The still have to get elected.

No point doing a Corbyn.
The Tories are finished...he needs to step up and deliver what people actually want.

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Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
It is investment and jobs...an avoiding the elephant trap of allowing the Tories to say Labour will lose you your job.

The still have to get elected.

No point doing a Corbyn.

I'm just trying to understand, since Labour will not get my vote whatever they say. Do you believe that, once elected, Starmer will do a 180 on all of the Tory policies he's either currently endorsing or conspicuously failing to oppose?
 

C R

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I'm just trying to understand, since Labour will not get my vote whatever they say. Do you believe that, once elected, Starmer will do a 180 on all of the Tory policies he's either currently endorsing or conspicuously failing to oppose?

That's what baffles me about the strategy too. Starmer endorses pretty much every other tory policy, so as to avoid being accused of being a socialist by the tory press. The theory being, we are told, that once elected he will undo the damage visited on the country by tory rule.

The flaw in this argument is that as soon as he starts abandoning those policies once in power, the tory press will start accusing him of being a socialist, and a liar who doesn't keep his promises, and then at the next election we get Braverman/Badenoch/Farage as prime minister for the tories.

If Labour really mean to change the country they must present a vision that people want to follow, not just we will do the same as the tories but will be less shïte at it.
 
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